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  • ewan ko lang, napansin ko na dati sakin epekto ng brown rice,red rice and white rice, lalo na nung nag keto ako,

    while in keto bandang thursday nag sisimula na mag flat muscles ko since halos depleted na carb source ko sa katawan, then papasok si saturday midnight ill start to eat fruits muna, then sunday whole day mag carb load nako ulit using white rice, eto experience ko, malakas ako sa white rice the next day, till wed, pero pag dating ng thurs ramdam ko na ung sobrang flat na ng muscles at medyo bitin nako sa endurance, while on taking brown rice naman, hindi ako ganun ka lakas and nde ganun ka fuller ang muscles ko the nextday pero sa case ng endurance kaya ko tumagal till friday, while taking red rice, malakas ako parang same sa white rice,and nakakatagal din ang endu ko till friday,kse usually pag depletion mode ako ng sabado sobrang iritable nako pag nag load ako ng carb galing white rice and oatmeal. mas ok ang combo ng red rice,rolled oats and green vegies para sa akin, IMHO lang ah.
  • hindi ko pa natry yung red rice. white and brown rice lang. So far, same lang sila ng effect sakin pagdating sa condition pero sa endurance medyo parehas tayo ng experience. kadalasan sa 4th WO ko strength at endurance wise kaya pa kaso iba na ang feeling sa joints at breathing, struggle na. naobserve ko naman pag nagload ako na may kasamang processed carbs mas matagal ako madeplete sa buong week.
  • ibig sabihin may mali. pag sa gabi eh nakakaramdam ka ng gutom. and rice is not the culprit why your were fat, its the EXCESS CALORIES. and believe me dude. the 5kgs you lose was just water. body water.

    but then again if you think your doin fine, then continue, its too early to tell the results cause its just merely 2weeks.
    Sir di nmn po ako tuwing gabi lang tinatamaan po ng gutom mga after 2 hours of eating dun tinatamaan na ako pero kaya ko pong tiisin kasi nag cocomputer games ako HAHAHAHAHA. kaya ung tuwing matutulog lang po ako nahihirapan kasi talagang ramdam na ramdam kong growling na growling ung tiyan ko unlike pag hapon kasi mas focus ako sa nilalaro ko kaysa sa pagkagutom :) problema ko nalang pag tinigil ko ung paglalaro ko aatakihin ako ng gutom ng matindi.
    true to this, water weight lang yan for sure pero kung talagang trip mo ma eliminate ang carbs, good for you pero keep in mind what's the importance of those carbs on your body.

    Plus add ko na lang din about what I've red what makes you hunger, the greline hormone and the excess sodium on those junk foods. Nakakabusog for short term pero ultra fast kayo magugutom dun
    wala po akong junk foods simula po ng nagbuhat ako sa gym if I'm not mistaken wala pang 10 junk foods nakain ko tapos sa softdrinks wala pa rin 10 times akong uminom, di po ako umiinom ng beer at wine pati yosi talagang healthy living po ako
    how about other carbs? totally wala din? try mo kumain ulit ng rice, pag naglabasan mga ugat mo sa buong katawan for a a couple of days malamang lean ka. pag naging bloated ka naman after a while, water nga lang yung nawala sayo. at hindi lang subcutaneous water, pati intra muscular water. try it para malaman mo kung itutuloy mo pa yung pagcut ng rice
    ung mga gulay po sa sinigang, adobo, tinola etc, un lng po mga carbs ko white rice lang po talga ang completely removal pero kung sinigang po at tinola hinihigop ko po lahat ng sabaw ng bumigat tiyan ko HAHAHAHAHAHA sayang eh :)
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    Crash diet na ata to lol.

    Mag kanin ka nalang tas itigil mo na yang computer computer games mo at maging mas physically active ka nalang
  • Yatez wrote:
    Crash diet na ata to lol.

    Mag kanin ka nalang tas itigil mo na yang computer computer games mo at maging mas physically active ka nalang
    In my rest day I do dancing for one hour or more but gusto ko rin po maging physically active like basketball kaya lang laging may naglalaro sa court 5v5 so no chance ako makapag laro dun tapos sarado na ung cemetery na pwede mag jogging pag hapon sa umaga lang pede tumakbo kaya dancing lang talaga pde kong gawin :)
  • pde naman mag pc games, ako eversince gamer, kaya ang taba ko before, LOL.

    sabi nga nila, kung ano ang sobra nakakasama, kung ung mabuti nga at healthy kainin once nasobrhan nakakasama padin, dapat lahat in moderation, malalaman mo din yan, matututunan mo din, and alam mo ba ang sabaw na hinihigop mo? kung ano laman nun? eh lahat ng katas,sahog,sangkap nandun, sa tingin mo? aheahhaa!
  • @drazard: okay bro, i get it. naghihinayang ka sa weight na nawala sayo. normal yan. pero hindi lang rice ang kulang sayo, overall kulang ka sa lahat. i bet pati sa protein e short na short ka. papayat ka talaga nyan. pero tandaan mo, hindi maganda ang payat. sa ngayon weightloss ang effect ng ginagawa mo, after nyan, strength loss, then phobia. basa basa ka dito sa site about those guys who was once afraid to eat para ma-enlighten ka sa experience nila :)
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    @drazard,
    If you will overhaul your lifestyle, whether it is for fat/weight loss, muscle gain or just for general health and fitness, you need to think long term.

    Keyword here is SUSTAINABILITY. Will you be able to sustain your lifestyle modification in the long run? Or you'll revert back to the same old shitty habits, back to your comfort zone and lose whatever you gained?
  • pde naman mag pc games, ako eversince gamer, kaya ang taba ko before, LOL.

    sabi nga nila, kung ano ang sobra nakakasama, kung ung mabuti nga at healthy kainin once nasobrhan nakakasama padin, dapat lahat in moderation, malalaman mo din yan, matututunan mo din, and alam mo ba ang sabaw na hinihigop mo? kung ano laman nun? eh lahat ng katas,sahog,sangkap nandun, sa tingin mo? aheahhaa!
    I know those things and I'm okay with that cause I'm still losing my weight.
    @drazard: okay bro, i get it. naghihinayang ka sa weight na nawala sayo. normal yan. pero hindi lang rice ang kulang sayo, overall kulang ka sa lahat. i bet pati sa protein e short na short ka. papayat ka talaga nyan. pero tandaan mo, hindi maganda ang payat. sa ngayon weightloss ang effect ng ginagawa mo, after nyan, strength loss, then phobia. basa basa ka dito sa site about those guys who was once afraid to eat para ma-enlighten ka sa experience nila :)
    About protein I don't think so sa aming magpapamilya ako lagi tumitira ng mga ulam almost sakin lahat meat kasi most of the time pag gabi Either Fried Chicken, Lechon Manok or BBQ ung alam namin, sakin ung pinaka marami :) so sila ang kulang sa protein hindi ako kaya lang wala nga lang kanin :(, umiinom ako ng gatas after workout and morning and I take multivitamins everyday

    Kumain ako ng 1:00PM nagugutom na ako 3:00 na :) hayahay HAHAHAHA
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    @drazard: okay bro, i get it. naghihinayang ka sa weight na nawala sayo. normal yan. pero hindi lang rice ang kulang sayo, overall kulang ka sa lahat. i bet pati sa protein e short na short ka. papayat ka talaga nyan. pero tandaan mo, hindi maganda ang payat. sa ngayon weightloss ang effect ng ginagawa mo, after nyan, strength loss, then phobia. basa basa ka dito sa site about those guys who was once afraid to eat para ma-enlighten ka sa experience nila Smile

    nung tumaba ako ng wild... at yeah I was once afraid to gain weight back after my crash diet, pero nung pinalamon ako nila boss dalts, milk, mighty oak, ds nung first GWO ko ayun it all started na.. mas okay ang fat loss ko compared sa weightloss ko.
    d alam mo ba ang sabaw na hinihigop mo? kung ano laman nun? eh lahat ng katas,sahog,sangkap nandun, sa tingin mo? aheahhaa!

    hehehe tama! buti sana kung ikaw mismo nagluluto at masasabi mo talaga "healthy" yan

    About protein I don't think so sa aming magpapamilya ako lagi tumitira ng mga ulam almost sakin lahat meat kasi most of the time pag gabi Either Fried Chicken, Lechon Manok or BBQ ung alam namin, sakin ung pinaka marami Smile so sila ang kulang sa protein hindi ako kaya lang wala nga lang kanin :(, umiinom ako ng gatas after workout and morning and I take multivitamins everyday

    Kumain ako ng 1:00PM nagugutom na ako 3:00 na Smile hayahay HAHAHAHA

    I got few questions for you sir pala :

    How sure you are hitting your protein needs? natitimbang mo ba bago lutuin yung karne? What about the recipe on that dish? Do you count them as needed on your daily needs??

    Do you happen to know your exact protein needs for your body atm?

    Healthy si lechon manok? fried chicken at bbq? If so, what about pork, beef, fish and tuna?

    and so you say hindi healthy si white rice and by that rice culprit for gaining that weight?
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    At dagdag lang mag ka iba ang weight loss at fat loss.
  • riddler wrote:
    @drazard,
    If you will overhaul your lifestyle, whether it is for fat/weight loss, muscle gain or just for general health and fitness, you need to think long term.

    Keyword here is SUSTAINABILITY. Will you be able to sustain your lifestyle modification in the long run? Or you'll revert back to the same old shitty habits, back to your comfort zone and lose whatever you gained?
    Sustainability wala sa english ko un HAHAHAHA my answer is I don't know, I have no idea how long I can handle this but the only thing I know is I feel like I'm extremely motivated to lose weight but I have a plan to stop reducing weight when I feel like I'm skinny already not a lean one.I got few questions for you sir pala :

    How sure you are hitting your protein needs? natitimbang mo ba bago lutuin yung karne? What about the recipe on that dish? Do you count them as needed on your daily needs??

    Do you happen to know your exact protein needs for your body atm?

    Healthy si lechon manok? fried chicken at bbq? If so, what about pork, beef, fish and tuna?

    and so you say hindi healthy si white rice and by that rice culprit for gaining that weight?
    [/quote] I'm not sure about protein intake but as far as I'm concern my diet is right now is High Protein Low Carbo.

    Sorry if I didn't mention that my family and I only ate Fish, Pork Beef, and vegetable at the lunch but our dinner is usually Fried Chicken, Lechon Manok and BBQ
    Yatez wrote:
    At dagdag lang mag ka iba ang weight loss at fat loss.
    YES SIR ! You mean cutting? losing fat while gaining muscle?
  • ^ano ba goal mo sir? anong physique ang gusto mo maachieve?
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    bro it seems that you don't get the point ni sir vinch.. lemme requoute this again to you and with bold text
    @drazard: okay bro, i get it. naghihinayang ka sa weight na nawala sayo. normal yan. pero hindi lang rice ang kulang sayo, overall kulang ka sa lahat. i bet pati sa protein e short na short ka. papayat ka talaga nyan. pero tandaan mo, hindi maganda ang payat. sa ngayon weightloss ang effect ng ginagawa mo, after nyan, strength loss, then phobia. basa basa ka dito sa site about those guys who was once afraid to eat para ma-enlighten ka sa experience nila :)
  • yaan nyo na, wala namn ata syang goal, gusto lang nya is weightloss,
  • ^ano ba goal mo sir? anong physique ang gusto mo maachieve?
    Lean and Visible Abs
    Jettie wrote:
    bro it seems that you don't get the point ni sir vinch.. lemme requoute this again to you and with bold text
    @drazard: okay bro, i get it. naghihinayang ka sa weight na nawala sayo. normal yan. pero hindi lang rice ang kulang sayo, overall kulang ka sa lahat. i bet pati sa protein e short na short ka. papayat ka talaga nyan. pero tandaan mo, hindi maganda ang payat. sa ngayon weightloss ang effect ng ginagawa mo, after nyan, strength loss, then phobia. basa basa ka dito sa site about those guys who was once afraid to eat para ma-enlighten ka sa experience nila :)
    I know what you're talking about but I only remove the white rice not the whole food ! furthermore I prefer to eat more than to get lean cause I hate having hard time but I must discipline myself not to eat cause I believe abdominal muscle is made in the kitchen.

    Eto pagkain ko for the whole day

    I take 1 Glass of Milk after workout, NO JUNK FOOD, No BEER and WINE, NO Energy Drink and I'm not Smoker.

    Morning - Quaker Oats with Milk in a bowl with 2 boiled egg if its workout days

    Lunch - (Beef/Chicken/Fish) Sinigang, Adobo, Tinola, Veggies, Bicol Express, etc ONLY THE LEAN MEAT and SKIN LESS of Chicken (NO RICE) 1 pc of banana or other fruits

    Snack - Situational Quaker Oats with Milk in a bowl

    Dinner - Lechon Manok, BBQ, Fried Chicken, 1 pc of banana or other fruits and 1 pc of vitamins
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    well my take? good luck sa goal mo hehehe hope you reach your desired lean and visible abs sa ganyang meal :)

    Been there done that.

    well, you remove the rice pero ang daming count ng carbs dyan sa meal mo well traces ng carbs, anyhoo maliit lang naman but still all foods were processed and still wasn't able to read about your post na you don't know how to count some stuff. hehe.

    BTW, JUNK food hindi lang chichirya... look at sodium and sugars :)) goodluck again
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    Total = 800 calories


    you're doing it right amp (sarcasm)
    brb road to auschwitz
    brb road to justin bieber
    brb road to daniel padilla
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    I'd say the 1 glass of milk standard per serving nasa 8ish g protein, 30ish carbs and 10ish fats... tapos quaker oats, wasn't sure kung standard 100g yan, na may 8-10ish g of protein, 10ish g of fats, at 60ish g of carbs.

    boiled eggs nuff said, the supposedly lean meats, how madami is the madami?

    Well, different folks different strokes... but I strongly believe and what I've learned from people here is not the white rice is not our enemy.. it's our stubborn head and phobia.

    What makes us gaining fat is the "EXCESS CALORIES" not the rice and our stupid potato ass during our bummer days
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    Jettie yung 8oz milk nasa 12g lang carbs non hehe usually or less pa madami na yung 12, tas sa ulam naman sa mga ulam ng pamilya di naman ganon kadaming karne makakain mo dahil hati hati kayo don baka akala nya marami na nakakain nya na karne pero sa totoo konti lang, sa oats naman sure nasa cup lang measurements nyan dahil pag di ka sanay kumain ng totoong serving size ng oats na nasa 100g malulula ka sa dami so he is really under eating
  • LEAN and VISIBLE ABS :) everybody wants that hindi lang ikaw. kaso 148lbs ka lang ata ngayon and still want to drop weight? you'll be skinny ripped @ 130lbs (seriously, not sexy brah!). Anyway, update us with your progress, if its giving you results then just go ahead:)

    hope we dont see you at ectomorphs den hahaha kidding:)
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Since nasa endomorph lair na rin tayo, managing starchy and high glycemic carbs is a must para sa ganitong body somatotype. Excess carbs are usually stored as adipose (fat) tissue.

    The key to success is not eliminaton, but more like proper timing (post-workout would be a good time to eat and gorge on those carbs) and management (carb-cycling comes into mind, deplete-replenish-rinse and repeat).
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    Ay potek endo pala to hahaha all this time ecto basa ko =))
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Interesting read.

    Hehehe.
    After few more weeks balikan mo lahat ng sinabi nila dito.

    :)

    Ako iniisip ko kung endomorph ako e, pero would it matter?
    No excuses! Hehehe
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    since nandito na tayo. Anyone here na possible ba yung nagiging from Ecto to Endo vice versa?

    Kasi sa buhay ko ... college to MMORPG adik ( good old RF ph / WOW / RO days ) eh paper thin ako 90 lbs to be exact, pancit canton tinapay lang lagi halos 70% ng pagkain ko.. Then nung nagkawork, jowa ayun naging skinny fat to mobsta ako.. so parang naging endo ako.

    Possible ba yun?
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    ^ I believe I am a classic example of ecto/endo hybrid. This is what I noticed based on my personal observation and experience.

    Framewise, I am scrawny(ectomorph) as hell. Small boned packed into a tiny body frame. Carb sensitivity wise, I am more like an endomorph. I do pack fat tissue like there's no tomorrow. Makaamoy lang ako ng carbs, tumataba na agad.

    I am the epitome of skinny fat syndrome. Tough shit, but that's reality. Deal with it. Sabi nga ni allen, NO EXCUSES. I dare say, EXCUSES ARE FOR WIMPS. lol

    Based on my limited 2 years of experience, iba iba talaga ang genetics ng tao. Which means there is no "one size, fits all" approach to our physical goals. Know your body, understand it well and make the necessary adjustments towards your goal.
  • @jettie: medyo same yan ng tanong sakin ni nrg500 dati. ang masasabi ko lang dyan "malnutrition" from childhood until you got conscious sa body mo :)
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Parang ganyan ako sayo riddler, mas malala lang siguro kasi based sa mga pics mo hindi naman naging ganun kalaki mid section mo. Saka wala kang manboobs.

    Sa tingen ko may chance na tama din yung sinabi ni Jettie since ako din payat before tapos biglang lumobo pero more on sa mid section and manboobs.
    Malamang dahil nga din sa bad diet, 3 pancit canton araw2x lunch ko nuon.
    Tapos nung college gang magkawork napadalas ang pag-inom, every other day tapos meryenda ko pa e chichirya. lol

    Ngayon kung titignan ako kapag nakadamit, maliit ako tignan pero pag naghubad labasan na mga taba ko.
    Pati misis ko sabi paliitin ko daw boobs ko hahahahahaha.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    it's about lifestyle:

    college - adik sa games no time to eat, no money to buy food if meron man crap food dahil pinanglalaro lang
    work - you have money to eat and go out plus you sit all day long at work; i wouldn't be surprised.

    But the question is; at this point, does it matter? :)
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    I see.. sa clan kasi ng mother ko eh puro payat at malalaki tyan, mga skinny fat kumbaga.. pero ewan ko, ang tingin ko eh skinny fat din nga ako.

    Tho I wasn't so sure kung ganun din ako sa case ni riddler about the carbs.

    Does the wrist bones affects the size kung ibabase yung pagsukat if small frame/big/medium? Sakin kasi nasa small ako , maliit talaga wrist ko kaya hindi ako nagrerelos dahil nabibigatan ako
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