Monching11: Project Pogi

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  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    @sir mighty

    paki elaborate hahaha. sorry noob me.

    pero from my understanding, same exercises din? ganun ba?
  • Big DawgBig Dawg Posts: 645
    Monch - I don't really know your goals dude so I can't advise. I see you weigh like 150 or so and based on your avi you look in good shape/not fat. Having said that, if I was training you I would say fuck cutting, let's put on some more size hehe! :p
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    My goal is to get to get to a low BF to see my abs sir hehehe. Coz I know the way to bulk effectively (I think for me at least.) compared to cutting which I never had been in before. So after this cutting cycle I would not do the same mistakes that I did since my last bulk. I'm dying to bulk sir believe me since this deficit is taking so much out of me. the next bulk I would like to get to 180-190lbs but with less BF compared to my 174 before.

    posted my current pic the other day http://pinoybodybuilding.com/Thread-Monching11-Project-Pogi-2013?page=220
    currently weighing 155-157lbs.

    edit:

    New avi sir, lookin like DY there!
  • Big DawgBig Dawg Posts: 645
    Based on your pics you don't have too far to go to see them abs. Your progress looks good. Next time when you bulk, just do lean bulking. Remember the scale isn't as important as the mirror - you can't flex fat hehe. Obviously getting up to 180+ lean will take some time, so be prepared to make pumping iron and eating soundly a lifestyle and not a chore. ;)

    My avi is from earlier this year - I had to make it grayscale bcoz the color pic was over 10kb. Thanks bro! :)
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    I mean yung format lang ng training mo sa legs same pattern one heavy day and one hypertrophy day in a week. Pero yung exercises syembre magkaibang magkaiba.
  • Yatez wrote:
    ^oo lol parang cardio eh hahaha mas trip ko din yung mga 3-5 reps pero mas lumobo quads ko sa high volume squats

    depende kase yan kung ano aim mo, at kung ano condition mo kung cutting ka dapat preserved ang muscle so heavy and moderate reps mas ok.

    depende din kung aim mo is strength, nde naman pde strngth ka 15reps tapos 90% ng 1rm mo lol!
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    @sir BD

    Thanks sir, will do lean bulk. Maybe reach 170 but look way much different and carry less BF.

    @sir mighty

    anong exercises bale ung sa 2 days? pahinge naman ako.

    @dalts

    LOL 90% 15 reps pa. grabe naman un hahah
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Monch- baka mag conflict sa current goal mo kasi ang Conjugate system of training is geared towards strength training. Actually puro PL's gumagamit ng training method nato.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    OK lang sir mighty, kahit for reference muna. Sa sunod ko kasing bulk mag JOH program ako na 2 days STR and 3 day Hypertrophy training baka may applicable saken.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Try mo yung Cube training method ni Brandon Lillly mas feasible sya kesa sa Conjugate method since ang daming equipment na kailangan sa conjugate method na wala sa mga gyms dito.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Thanks sir mighty. Ginoogle ko na, putsa siya pala ung malaking kalbo na me balbas!
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Yep mas feasible kasi yan compared sa Conjugate ng Westside. Isa pa na DL ko na yung E-book nya! haha
  • Pinagaaralan ko din yung conjugate monch. Sa ngayon basa basa lang ako at research about it kung possible maincorporate sya training ko. Kay sir mighty din ako nagtatanong.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    @sir mighty

    ahahaha di nga searchable sa google. I had to Jack Sparrow it!! basahin ko to sa byahe hehehehe

    @vinch

    Kita ko palng brah ung cliffs sa google natawa ako dito
    Cliffs:

    This is a very high volume program.
    You will get tired.
    You might bleed.
    You will weep at the sight of stairs.
    You will profit.
  • Ako natuwa dun sa mg dinudugo! Hehe astig!
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Eto good summary regarding the conjugate method

    http://www.deepsquatter.com/strength/archives/ls7.htm
  • Big DawgBig Dawg Posts: 645
    Sir Monch, just curious but may I ask why are you focusing on strength training when you are depleting and cutting dude?
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    @sir BD

    Sir i will be reading them just for info for my next bulk. Still gonna stick with what i'm doing now (maxOT) but geared more on the pump and contractions.@vinch

    Ahaha uu nga duduguin sa hirap

    @sir mighty

    Thanks!
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    God deym ulan. Di tuloy ako nakapag cardio kahapon.

    Reference photo ko for the week. Sana sa sunod na monday may changes ule.
    PhotoGrid_1383518842592_zps82777d77.jpg


    Will hit shoulders, tris and abs later.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Dapat bukas din butones mala papabol jettie lol
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    hahaha allen pag nagcut ka for sure magiging ganyan ka din hahaha.

    Besides, pinaghirapan natin yun ah! kaya vain vain lang din!
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    di ko kaya sabayan si LOLO FAFA Jettie hehehe. Pag me adonis line mag brief na lang ako LOL
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Tingen ko maganda kalalabasan nito paps kasi maganda na pundasyon mo ng mass, lalo sa chest/delts area.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    ^sana brah. Hoping din maganda end result and not lose to much muscle mass. Pero sa susunod na bulk ko tirahin ko rear delts kulang sa karne e.


    Di ako nakapunta sa gym at may sakit ang baby ko kaya dito na lang sa bahay nagbuhat. Was supposed to hit delts pero di ko makukumpleto ung program ko nag chest na lang ako. Tomorrow na lang ako mag shoulders/tri's. Workout went very good for me. Mas maganda incliniation ng bench ko di gaano ka steep kesa sa bakal gym ko mas sapul ang upper.

    Chest/Abs

    My plates are only up to 120lbs. Had to maximize it out since I have no choice. Concentrated on the contractions and slow negatives.

    Incline BB
    Barx15
    30x15
    70x15
    100x12

    WS - Slow on the negative and explosive on the positive. My BB is also heavier than the bakal gym (7ft vs 6ft)
    120x12x9x8

    Flat BB
    120x10x9

    Incline DB's
    60x10x9

    Flat DB
    60x9x7 (fatigued)

    Incline Flyes
    30x12x11x9

    DB flyes
    30x10x9x6 (no more energy)

    Weighted leg raises
    10x12x8x3 (failed, core to fatigued from yesterday's workout. Muntik na ma injure at bumagsak ang DB malapit sa mukha ko WHEW close call!)

    PWO Shake:

    Gatorade + 2 scoops ON whey (fucking vanilla ice cream).

    Only meal today:

    2 orders of arroz ala cubana
    1 adobong sigarilyas

    Post workout meal ko later:
    4 big size BBQ

    Namamaga pecs ko LOL.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Paano ba plan mo sa cut cycle mo brah?
    Ilan lang carbs mo?
    Parang wala ka yatang rice?
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    ^matagal ko nang ginagawa yang ganyan brah di ko lang dine-detail hahaha.

    mag 2 months nako na halos no carbs most probably 4-5x a week pwera lang pag cheat day. Kung mag carbs man ako sa umaga lang either 1 cup of oatmeal or rice. Frank Yang style cutting brah. Pag nagutom dun lang kakain para lang di magwala ung sikmura pero di bubusugin ganun lang hehehehe.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Awts tindi!
    Di ko yata kaya yan ah haha.

    Pero protein intake mo paano?
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    taena brah kaya nga mga posts ko minsan dito sa journal ko "its taking so much out of me" literal kasi lalo na mentally. Sa protein naman, basta workout days ko 2-4 scoops depende sa kinain ko sa buong araw. Tas pag cheat day di nako nag su-supp kasi tingin ko covered na ng mga pinag lalamon ko eh hehehe. More on pakiramdaman approach ako ngayon less stress sa pagco-compute sa cals, mas komportable ako sa ganitong setup kasi ung gutom na lang kalaban ko.

    Kaya nga nagtatanong din ako ke vinch ng mga diskarte sa cheat days etc. Kabisado nya yung mga ganito eh
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Imba yan brad!
    Enge nga link niyan para lang "mabasa" ko dahil wala ako balak gawen yan sa ngayon haha. Basa lang muna haha
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    sarap 2-4 scoops isang lagukan! kadamu pera! hahaha.

    Ako sa 2 scoops, nanginginig na yung scooper with powder kung ilalagay ko ba yung 2nd scoop hehe..

    #poorproblem
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