Ok lang ba na CLEN lang yung ittake mo? Wala ng ketotifen. May effects parin ba? Haha
Yep, yung ketotifen kasi pang reset lang ng beta 2 receptors due to prolonged use ng clen. So kung walang ketotifen you need to cycle clen 2 weeks on then 2 weeks off. Pag may ketotifen you can use clen for up to 45 days straight.
"The Clenbuterol will raise your bodies temperature and heartrate, therefore burning more calories per hour. Normally your body will not get any effect from Clenbuterol after 3 weeks, but this is why we take it with Ketotifen.
The Ketotifen will keep your Beta 2 receptors in good shape, meaning you can use Clenbuterol for longer up to 6 weeks. (Clenbuterol can not safely be used for longer than 3 weeks, without a 3 week break, unless you are using Ketotifen daily from the second week).
Special Attention needs to be paid to the start AND end of your 6 Weeks of Clenbuterol, start with a small dose for the first 2 days, the a slightly higher dose for another 2 days and then your max/recommended dose for the remainder of the cycle. When you come to the end of the cycle, reverse the process, taking slightly less for 2 days, then slightly less for another 2 days and then stopping.
THE FIRST TIME YOU TAKE CLENBUTEROL: You must establish for yourself what is the correct dosage. For a woman it will be between 40-100mcg, for a man between 80-160mcg. You start on 20-40mcg for a couple of days, then you raise to 40-80mcg for a couple more days.. at this point you should “feel” the clenbuterol working, if your hands are shaking slightly, don’t worry that should subside in a day, if it does not you are taking slightly too much and you need to reduce your dose 20-40mcg. So it’s the point where your taking just less than the amount that makes your hands tremble that you want to find and this is your MAX dose. You want to be taking enough Clenbuterol to be “feeling it” when your doing your workout, but not so much that your hands are shaking and making you feel uncomfortable.
Ketotifen take 2 tablets a day everyday before bed from week 2-6.
The thing to remember about Ketotifen is that is makes you drowsy and you should not take it in the morning or before driving your car."
Following the suggested safe dosage eto ang magiging itsura ng clen ketotifen cycle...
Days 1 & 2: 20mcg
Days 3 & 4: 40mcg
Days 5 & 6: 60mcg
Days 7 & 8: 80mcg
Days 9 & 10: 100mcg
Days 11 - 34: 120mcg
Days 35 & 36: 100mcg
Days 37 & 38: 80mcg
Days 39 & 40: 60mcg
Days 41 & 42: 20mcg
Total mcgs = 4,000 (1 bottle) BTW inayos ko lang yung dosage para sakto sa isang bote.
EDIT: Week 2 nako today so take na'ko ketotifen starting tom.
^Bro it's up to you.hehe Yung sakin naman kasi na curious lang talaga ako sa effectiveness ng clen. So far so good naman, next week magkakaalaman na talaga kung gano katindi tong clen kasi this coming week, as in whole week, naka 120mcg per day ako so tingna ko kung gano kalaki improvement.
Nice progress pat, ako nag stop lastweek kc makati yung brand ng salbu na nabili ko. Nagtry akong generic salbu mas okey sya la kati sa throat. Pero dun pa din ang shakeness after 1hr of take. Post ko progress nag salbu after 2weeks. Need kasi magcut ng konti para sa swimming this end of mo. Hehehe, btw start ko ng new dose cycle 2days ago @ 4mg 2x a day. Ngayon monday 4mg 3x a day. Tuloy tuloy ko na to till week3. Update ko na lng progress ko after cycle.
^Bro it's up to you.hehe Yung sakin naman kasi na curious lang talaga ako sa effectiveness ng clen. So far so good naman, next week magkakaalaman na talaga kung gano katindi tong clen kasi this coming week, as in whole week, naka 120mcg per day ako so tingna ko kung gano kalaki improvement.
using hydroxycut hard core PRO for 2 weeks now, first 2 days ng pag gamit, sa 2nd dose ko post cardio, medyo na fefeel ko yung palpitations. after a week, wala na. siguro i need to increase my dosage na. this week will do.
so far, effective naman. eh 30 minutes straight cardio before di ko kaya eh. ngayon parang wala lang. at kung pawis ang paguusapan, kasama pati brief na mababasa sa pawis. so for me, effective talaga.
downside is --- kailangan lang talagang SUPER DUPER INCREASE fluid intake.
Yung Shred Matrix Okay yun I can attest to that! Used it itong last summer and it worked for me without the palpitations and yung nahihilo feeling. Pero not sure if it's for everyone nga lang, just my own experience of it. The lipo 6 a friend of mine used it and lagi siyang nagpapalpitate kaya laging hindi mapakali haha!
i just came from cash and carry and lahat ng stores dun, walang binibentang Yohimbine HCL. is there anyone here could help kung san kaya ako makakabili? Thanks!
this is what im looking for.
kung wala talagang mablan, baka mag shred matrix na lang ako.. sana meron sa cash n carry ^^
i just came from cash and carry and lahat ng stores dun, walang binibentang Yohimbine HCL. is there anyone here could help kung san kaya ako makakabili? Thanks!
this is what im looking for.
kung wala talagang mablan, baka mag shred matrix na lang ako.. sana meron sa cash n carry ^^
^uu taas ng caffeine nung iba which will give you a buzz!
thanks sir monch! mahal kasi ng mga pre-workout blends! plano ko bumili na lang ng thermogenic kasi mas mura, eh may caffeine din naman (mataas na nga yung caffeine tolerance ko eh, coffee addict kasi ako HAHA). tsaka bibili na lang ako ng hiwalay ng creatine pati beta alanin products. tingin ko mas sulti yung pera ko kung ganun gagawin ko.
thanks 197lbs for the reply.. however, i just bought shred matrix instead of that yohimbine hcl..
im taking shred matrix for about 5 days na.. im a bit worried kase instead of masuppress yung appetite ko, it seems mas lalo akong ginaganahang kumain..
ANYARE??
i dunno If i will be losing weight on this.. let's see... T_T bat ganun? LOL!
meron na bang gumamit neto dito? hows the result mga pafs?
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Yep, yung ketotifen kasi pang reset lang ng beta 2 receptors due to prolonged use ng clen. So kung walang ketotifen you need to cycle clen 2 weeks on then 2 weeks off. Pag may ketotifen you can use clen for up to 45 days straight.
Yung cramps pala kulang lang ako sa tubig that time tsaka siguro naga-adjust din yung katawan ko sa clen. Ngayon ok na siya.
"The Clenbuterol will raise your bodies temperature and heartrate, therefore burning more calories per hour. Normally your body will not get any effect from Clenbuterol after 3 weeks, but this is why we take it with Ketotifen.
The Ketotifen will keep your Beta 2 receptors in good shape, meaning you can use Clenbuterol for longer up to 6 weeks. (Clenbuterol can not safely be used for longer than 3 weeks, without a 3 week break, unless you are using Ketotifen daily from the second week).
Special Attention needs to be paid to the start AND end of your 6 Weeks of Clenbuterol, start with a small dose for the first 2 days, the a slightly higher dose for another 2 days and then your max/recommended dose for the remainder of the cycle. When you come to the end of the cycle, reverse the process, taking slightly less for 2 days, then slightly less for another 2 days and then stopping.
THE FIRST TIME YOU TAKE CLENBUTEROL: You must establish for yourself what is the correct dosage. For a woman it will be between 40-100mcg, for a man between 80-160mcg. You start on 20-40mcg for a couple of days, then you raise to 40-80mcg for a couple more days.. at this point you should “feel” the clenbuterol working, if your hands are shaking slightly, don’t worry that should subside in a day, if it does not you are taking slightly too much and you need to reduce your dose 20-40mcg. So it’s the point where your taking just less than the amount that makes your hands tremble that you want to find and this is your MAX dose. You want to be taking enough Clenbuterol to be “feeling it” when your doing your workout, but not so much that your hands are shaking and making you feel uncomfortable.
Ketotifen take 2 tablets a day everyday before bed from week 2-6.
The thing to remember about Ketotifen is that is makes you drowsy and you should not take it in the morning or before driving your car."
Following the suggested safe dosage eto ang magiging itsura ng clen ketotifen cycle...
Days 1 & 2: 20mcg
Days 3 & 4: 40mcg
Days 5 & 6: 60mcg
Days 7 & 8: 80mcg
Days 9 & 10: 100mcg
Days 11 - 34: 120mcg
Days 35 & 36: 100mcg
Days 37 & 38: 80mcg
Days 39 & 40: 60mcg
Days 41 & 42: 20mcg
Total mcgs = 4,000 (1 bottle) BTW inayos ko lang yung dosage para sakto sa isang bote.
EDIT: Week 2 nako today so take na'ko ketotifen starting tom.
sir ano na latest hehe
so far, effective naman. eh 30 minutes straight cardio before di ko kaya eh. ngayon parang wala lang. at kung pawis ang paguusapan, kasama pati brief na mababasa sa pawis. so for me, effective talaga.
downside is --- kailangan lang talagang SUPER DUPER INCREASE fluid intake.
ano dosage mo at yung timing?
Yung Shred Matrix Okay yun I can attest to that! Used it itong last summer and it worked for me without the palpitations and yung nahihilo feeling. Pero not sure if it's for everyone nga lang, just my own experience of it. The lipo 6 a friend of mine used it and lagi siyang nagpapalpitate kaya laging hindi mapakali haha!
this is what im looking for.
hope this helps
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/6668843/Yohimbine+HCL+by+PrimaForce,+2.5mg,+90+vegetarian+caps+(Lose+Fat)?referralKeywords=yohimbine&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-1,1
thanks sir monch! mahal kasi ng mga pre-workout blends! plano ko bumili na lang ng thermogenic kasi mas mura, eh may caffeine din naman (mataas na nga yung caffeine tolerance ko eh, coffee addict kasi ako HAHA). tsaka bibili na lang ako ng hiwalay ng creatine pati beta alanin products. tingin ko mas sulti yung pera ko kung ganun gagawin ko.
im taking shred matrix for about 5 days na.. im a bit worried kase instead of masuppress yung appetite ko, it seems mas lalo akong ginaganahang kumain..
ANYARE??
i dunno If i will be losing weight on this.. let's see... T_T bat ganun? LOL!
meron na bang gumamit neto dito? hows the result mga pafs?
tropa ko gumamit ng oxyelite effective naman sa kanya you might want to try that...