cable crossovers for chest?

codylewis

aside from bench press and incline bench press, do you guys also do cable crossovers? marami variation sa cable crossovers diba? sabi ng iba wala daw kwenta yun kaso marami din may sabi na effective din.

DSmallDivide

ok naman ang crossovers, though for me, nothing beats free weights. i used to do my exercises sa machines than free weights when i was starting, true they are easier to perform and you can definitely lift heavier sa machines than free weights coz it eliminates if not completely partially nung balance factor. kasi all you have to do is either push or pull. pro nung nag shift ako free weights mas mabilis ako nakapag pack ng muscles than machines though i still use machines for some exercise like ung tricep pushdowns, etc... just my two cents since nandun tayu somehow sa topic kung me kwenta or wala ung crossovers. i guess you could say matter of preference din minsan some who train, find the easiest way out pagdating sa exercises, for me the harder to perform the better, pro iniiwasan ko lang is ung mga exrcises na mataas ang risk ko magkainjury

DalmasVektaz

http://www.livestrong.com/article/382400-muscles-used-when-using-the-cable-crossover-machine/

codylewis

DSmallDivide wrote:

ok naman ang crossovers, though for me, nothing beats free weights. i used to do my exercises sa machines than free weights when i was starting, true they are easier to perform and you can definitely lift heavier sa machines than free weights coz it eliminates if not completely partially nung balance factor. kasi all you have to do is either push or pull. pro nung nag shift ako free weights mas mabilis ako nakapag pack ng muscles than machines though i still use machines for some exercise like ung tricep pushdowns, etc... just my two cents since nandun tayu somehow sa topic kung me kwenta or wala ung crossovers. i guess you could say matter of preference din minsan some who train, find the easiest way out pagdating sa exercises, for me the harder to perform the better, pro iniiwasan ko lang is ung mga exrcises na mataas ang risk ko magkainjury

thanks sa tips bro really helpful! may gumawa kasi ng program ko for this month: for example i used barbell today for chest (flat,incline,dips and dumbbell fly). next chest workout ko ay dumbbells naman (dumbbel bench press, dumbbell incline, etc). Then after nun, cables naman (5 different variations ng cable, nagpump tlga yung chest ko dahil sa squeeze kada rep). tapos back to barbell.

rugged666

ang alam q, meron 3 chest exercise using cable machines, yung high, mid at low, mnsan meron pa nung rear... actually ang crossover exercise ay pag build ng strength at idefine yung pectorals ng chest mo, at ndi mismong pagpapalaki ng pectorals mo. parang flys lng sya, magkakaroon ng guhit sa taas, gitna at baba ng chest mo.

Airnzah

I wouldn't say cable crossovers are useless (medyo lang:D), pero once in a while why not? It's a great finishing movement for chest. Pwede rin gamitin pang warm-up, before going heavy w/ presses. To make it interesting pwede mo rin gamitin yung mga techniques like static hold, drop/strip set, etc.

codylewis wrote:

thanks sa tips bro really helpful! may gumawa kasi ng program ko for this month: for example i used barbell today for chest (flat,incline,dips and dumbbell fly). next chest workout ko ay dumbbells naman (dumbbel bench press, dumbbell incline, etc). Then after nun, cables naman (5 different variations ng cable, nagpump tlga yung chest ko dahil sa squeeze kada rep). tapos back to barbell.

In a nutshell, ok yang plano mo bro. You get to do something different everytime. Although yung isang chest day dedicated sa puro cable is a bit too much for me, kung ok sayo then why not?

rugged666

Airnzah wrote:

I wouldn't say cable crossovers are useless (medyo lang:D), pero once in a while why not? It's a great finishing movement for chest. Pwede rin gamitin pang warm-up, before going heavy w/ presses. To make it interesting pwede mo rin gamitin yung mga techniques like static hold, drop/strip set, etc.

codylewis wrote:

thanks sa tips bro really helpful! may gumawa kasi ng program ko for this month: for example i used barbell today for chest (flat,incline,dips and dumbbell fly). next chest workout ko ay dumbbells naman (dumbbel bench press, dumbbell incline, etc). Then after nun, cables naman (5 different variations ng cable, nagpump tlga yung chest ko dahil sa squeeze kada rep). tapos back to barbell.

In a nutshell, ok yang plano mo bro. You get to do something different everytime. Although yung isang chest day dedicated sa puro cable is a bit too much for me, kung ok sayo then why not?

maganda epekto ng crossover qng may muscle mass na chest mo, at qng gs2 mong chest na parang square ang dating, yung flat sya at ndi pabilog, sa benchpress lumalaki chest mo pero pabilog. finishing workout lng sa chest to, kya do it after all benchpresses.

Airnzah

rugged666 wrote:

maganda epekto ng crossover qng may muscle mass na chest mo, at qng gs2 mong chest na parang square ang dating, yung flat sya at ndi pabilog, sa benchpress lumalaki chest mo pero pabilog. finishing workout lng sa chest to, kya do it after all benchpresses.

Bossing, mawalanggalang lang. Pero hindi natin made-decide kung bilog man or square ang magiging muscle natin. Muscle shape is purely genetic. Wala tayong magagawa sa shape. Pwede lang nating palakihin.

monching11

^

+1

kaya hindi natin 100% magagaya kung sino man ung dream physique because of our genetics hehehehe.

DalmasVektaz

hehehe alam ko na sunod na isasagot niyan sainyo

DSmallDivide

Tama ka insan monch. We are all made different after all.

Prolevelz

rugged666 wrote:

Airnzah wrote:

I wouldn't say cable crossovers are useless (medyo lang:D), pero once in a while why not? It's a great finishing movement for chest. Pwede rin gamitin pang warm-up, before going heavy w/ presses. To make it interesting pwede mo rin gamitin yung mga techniques like static hold, drop/strip set, etc.

codylewis wrote:

thanks sa tips bro really helpful! may gumawa kasi ng program ko for this month: for example i used barbell today for chest (flat,incline,dips and dumbbell fly). next chest workout ko ay dumbbells naman (dumbbel bench press, dumbbell incline, etc). Then after nun, cables naman (5 different variations ng cable, nagpump tlga yung chest ko dahil sa squeeze kada rep). tapos back to barbell.

In a nutshell, ok yang plano mo bro. You get to do something different everytime. Although yung isang chest day dedicated sa puro cable is a bit too much for me, kung ok sayo then why not?

maganda epekto ng crossover qng may muscle mass na chest mo, at qng gs2 mong chest na parang square ang dating, yung flat sya at ndi pabilog, sa benchpress lumalaki chest mo pero pabilog. finishing workout lng sa chest to, kya do it after all benchpresses.

Pwede rin yung Pelvic flye - ito yung ginagawa ko kun tapos na ako sa mga BP... instead sa Crossover if ever man lang meron sa cables naka tanay pa....

rugged666

i respect all your opinion, may kanya kanya naman tlga tyong pananaw, its up to you qng gs2 mo ang crossover o ndi, kanya kanyang diskarte lng yan, pero sabi ng ni rotrot, wag daw sisihin sa genes ang muscle development mo, tama nman sabi ni rotrot, kahit aq naniniwala aq na ang genes ay malaking contribution sa bodybuilding, pero maraming paraan, maraming workouts para mabago mo at maabot mo qng ano man gsto mo sa katawan mo.

@prolevelz, ano ung pelvic flye? pano un?

Prolevelz

rugged666 wrote:

i respect all your opinion, may kanya kanya naman tlga tyong pananaw, its up to you qng gs2 mo ang crossover o ndi, kanya kanyang diskarte lng yan, pero sabi ng ni rotrot, wag daw sisihin sa genes ang muscle development mo, tama nman sabi ni rotrot, kahit aq naniniwala aq na ang genes ay malaking contribution sa bodybuilding, pero maraming paraan, maraming workouts para mabago mo at maabot mo qng ano man gsto mo sa katawan mo.

@prolevelz, ano ung pelvic flye? pano un?

forgive me - i think what i mean is chest fly exercise....

boss_j

yung chest mo bilog man yan o kodrado o tatsulok o pa letrang U basta nag ka mass na yan then proportion ung mass oks na ok na un...

shape kasi di na nababago just like abs, may pantay pantay meron naman hindi , may big size may small size lol ..

Airnzah

rugged666 wrote:

i respect all your opinion, may kanya kanya naman tlga tyong pananaw, its up to you qng gs2 mo ang crossover o ndi, kanya kanyang diskarte lng yan, pero sabi ng ni rotrot, wag daw sisihin sa genes ang muscle development mo, tama nman sabi ni rotrot, kahit aq naniniwala aq na ang genes ay malaking contribution sa bodybuilding, pero maraming paraan, maraming workouts para mabago mo at maabot mo qng ano man gsto mo sa katawan mo.

Sure, this is true. To an extent. Whether we like it or not, genes play a role. But it can be overcome, of course. & syempre hindi natin pwedeng gawing excuse to. Maganda paring mindset yung hardwork & determination..

But in this case, pertaining to muscle shape, wala talaga tayong magagawa dito. Kung bilog ang hugis ng pecs mo, walang exercise ang makakapagpa-square nyan kung gusto mo. Vice versa. Kung gustuhin mong gawing tatsulok o star yan, sorry ka na lang. LOL

Mighty_Oak

^Apir! Muscle shape does not have anything to do with the exercises that we're doing. Ano yun para tanyong kahoy na niililok???

That part is now dictated by our genes, kasi kung may magagawa ang exercises jan eh di sana lahat na lang ng nagububuhat pareho itsura ng chest or whatever body part.

zane

I like doing cable flyes especially yung galing baba yung pulley tapos pasahod hahahah

rugged666

cable flyes parang dumbbell flyes lng yan, much easier lng kc ang cable flyes at less risk, sa dumbbell flyes mahirap magbuhat ng super bigat kc nawawala proper form mo, potential risk of injury pa.

kaya naimbento ang cable machine at nagawa ang cable flyes ay dahil may epekto ito sa pectorals natin, ndi nman gagawin to qng walang epekto sa chest.

ang totoong bodybuilder, ndi lng panay benchpress ang gnagawang exercise sa chest...

DalmasVektaz

lol lol lol

boss_j

naku dipala ako tunay na bodybuilder di ako nakakapag flye or cable flye lol ... i only do compound hahaha

Kyzack

badtrip ndi pala ako tunay na bodybuilder. i love compound

aloy0511

zane wrote:

I like doing cable flyes especially yung galing baba yung pulley tapos pasahod hahahah

parang kakaiba to ah!
flyes or crossovers both isolation exercises for pectoralis major and minor.

basta masarap ung DOMS gagawin ko
pag walang DOMS parang walang progress

DalmasVektaz

siya siguro tunay na bodybuilder pero ayaw niya raw maging bodybuilder sabi niya dun sa isang thread pero ginagawa niya yung cable flyes lol lol lol lol oh my gulay

rotrot78

compound lover here.. ano yung cable flye?? nyahaha

DalmasVektaz

lumilipad na ibon sir rot tpos kasing liit ng wire ang katawan ng ibon hehehe fifitwo

rotrot78

wahahahaha!!!!

rugged666

DalmasVektaz wrote:

siya siguro tunay na bodybuilder pero ayaw niya raw maging bodybuilder sabi niya dun sa isang thread pero ginagawa niya yung cable flyes lol lol lol lol oh my gulay

cnabi q bang tunay na bodybuilder aq?? LOOL magbasa ng maaus pra ndi mahalata! LOOL

i bet ang mga chest na ndi nagDB flye puro bilog, pde lagyan ng BRA LOOL

rotrot78

baket ano chest mo rugged666 hugis heart?? hehe

DalmasVektaz

:D:D:D:D:D

daltonkamote

buti nalang weight training lang ako hindi body builder lol. buti hindi pang bra dede ko, pang lamasable lang, lamas ng lamas,,,