Mass vs Aesthetics - What would you pick? Kai or Alon?

LazarLazar Posts: 565
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Alon Gabbay is one of the current aesthetics crew in town along side with Jeff Seid, Matt Ogus etc...

While Kai Greene a.k.a "The Predator" is a low profile Mr.Olympia competitor. He ranked 2nd on the recent 2013 Mr.Olympia won by the genetic gifted Phil Heath.

Alon released a workout/inspirational video of him, together win Jeff and Kai. On that video, Kai served as a somewhat "mentor" for the two young body builders.

But after that, Alon posted a picture with this caption :

Mass vs Aesthetics - What would you pick?

Does it sound arrogant? Posting this stuff after you learned new things from that man.


What's your side brothers?
And what would you pick?

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TGIF!
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  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    Ang kups naman nung alon , pagkatapos mabigyan sila ng mga imbang advice eh yan response.

    We know na hindi ganun ka achievable ang pagiging "MASS" not unless you do the unconventional method to look like that. ( No offense kung may masasaktan , my opinion lang )

    Sakin it's a matter of personal preferences at ano yung attainable ng isang individual. Ako bakit ko pinili yung "DYEL" guy dahil first and foremost goal ko eh lumakas since lampayatot ako noon. Bonus na lang talaga at posero na lang kung may mga poserong post ako na nagflex.

    Siguro sa tingin ko, dadaan muna ako sa aesthetics then kung naboost ang hunger ko sa pag babago eh di freak mode na! And to add, gusto ko talaga overall fit ako, speed, athletic, stronger and of course functional at aesthetic kahit papaano hehe. Kaya susubukan ko talaga lahat
  • iSamsonJeffiSamsonJeff Posts: 764
    Parang ang arrogante nyan ni Alon.
    Mas ok pa pala si Jeff Seid.

    BTW , I prefer Aesthetics pero parang kulang sa size. so pwede bang Massthethics haha. kaso mukhang matagal tagal pa ma-achieve un
  • LazarLazar Posts: 565
    "Siguro sa tingin ko, dadaan muna ako sa aesthetics then kung naboost ang hunger ko sa pag babago eh di freak mode na!"

    - True. Being massive and colossal is a whole different level from aesthetics.
    And I, would also go for aesthetics ...for the meantime.

    But releasing a question like that? for me is bad timing.
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    oo nga eh, wrong timing talaga. Parang walang respeto. Oh well trip nya yan eh, for sure hindi na mag step down dyan si boss Kai!
  • LazarLazar Posts: 565
    3-0 Aesthetics over Massthetics (for now) Hahaha
  • OhsnapOhsnap Posts: 425
    Aesthetic ako bro! hehe Malaking aesthetic sana haha. Baka matakot na saken babae nyan pag mass (kala mo naman kaya iachieve eh) hahahaha
  • LazarLazar Posts: 565
    ^ that's a troll catcher statement. Hahaha Beware!
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    haha para sakin regarding "Mass" eh Mostly napagdaanan na nila yung pagiging "Aesthetic" kumbaga been there, next level naman!

    So yung mga nagvote o tulad nating pumili Aesthetic eh syempre galing tayo sa bits tits eh. Darating din sa point na marealize natin na mag mass na ba tayo? Eh yun ay kung nagawa na natin maging Aesthetic dahil parehas malupet na training, discipline at nutrition ang kaakibat nyan.

    Kung di pa nga natin magawa maging aesthetic , mass pa kaya? haha
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    Pag sinabing "aesthetic" ibig sabihin balance. Parehas aesthetic si Kai and Alon, magkaibang category nga lang sila. Aesthetic si Kai for an IFBB pro while Alon and his crew are aesthetic for physique/fitness. Kung ang tanong ay sino ang aesthetic sa pananaw ng masa na walang alam sa bodybuilding, kanya kanya na ng point of view yan but i dont think one is better than the other. Kung practical ka, dun ka sa katawan na palagay mo ay magugustuhan at tatangapin ka ng mga tao :)
  • LazarLazar Posts: 565
    So dapat ang tanong ni Alon is ...

    IFBB vs Fitness - What would you pick? :)
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    Ang gusto lang palabasin ni Alon e kung sino ang mas magugustuhan ng mga chicks at sino ang "hot" hahaha

    wala naman paki alam si Kai sa mga trip nila, Sandow trophy ang mahalaga kay Kai Greene, hindi sambahin ng mga babae haha
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    oo nga eh, ganyan na halos mentality ng mga IFBB.
  • RayKriegRayKrieg Posts: 577
    Aesthetics :) Sabi nga ni Kai kina Jeff and Alon sa video, "It's for the ladies" Hahahaha :)
  • brylle_55brylle_55 Posts: 166
    Kasi sa Crew nila gsto nila puro Hotness.. Still Zyzz pdin kesa kay jeff at alon.. pero if jeff and alon... jeff seid pdn pinanuod ko ng buo nung pagkalabas palang ng video at mpapansin na mali yung galaw nila sa ginagawa ni kaihaha nag comment ko hindi ko nasagot aesthetics ako..
  • LazarLazar Posts: 565
    badass_vinch wrote:
    Ang gusto lang palabasin ni Alon e kung sino ang mas magugustuhan ng mga chicks at sino ang "hot" hahaha

    wala naman paki alam si Kai sa mga trip nila, Sandow trophy ang mahalaga kay Kai Greene, hindi sambahin ng mga babae haha

    Kai : Disregard bitches, acquire massthetics LOL

    Alon : K. fine.

    Hahaha
  • OhsnapOhsnap Posts: 425
    Lazar wrote:
    ^ that's a troll catcher statement. Hahaha Beware!

    haha i'm refering to myself hahahaha. Mukang impossible pa yung ganung kalaki sa lifestyle ko hahaha
  • bokehbokeh Posts: 394
    @badass_vinch anong category po ba yang katawan niyo? ganyan kasi gusto ko eh :) hehehehe
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    bokeh wrote:
    @badass_vinch anong category po ba yang katawan niyo? ganyan kasi gusto ko eh :) hehehehe

    haha wala bro. Strive to achieve the best possible body na kaya mo. Ganun lang ako.
  • Emman1986Emman1986 Posts: 1,819
    ako, aesthetics lang masaya nako :) kasi alam ko un lang ang may posibilidad na maachieve ko ng walang karga.

    at sa pananaw ko, pag massthetics ka, dapat do your very best para palaging manalo sa mga BBing Comp or kung kagaya nung isang gym mate ko sabi nya, for fun lang! lol hihhi
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Tingin niyo ba walang karga si Alon at Jeff? :)
    Hindi porke maliit ibig sabihin di kargado.
    Di din porke malaki, kargado na.
    badass_vinch wrote:
    Ang gusto lang palabasin ni Alon e kung sino ang mas magugustuhan ng mga chicks at sino ang "hot" hahaha

    wala naman paki alam si Kai sa mga trip nila, Sandow trophy ang mahalaga kay Kai Greene, hindi sambahin ng mga babae haha

    True.
    Dami kasi dito puro chix lang habol kaya nagbubuhat.
    Pinaka mababang reason in my opinion.
    Jettie wrote:

    We know na hindi ganun ka achievable ang pagiging "MASS" not unless you do the unconventional method to look like that. ( No offense kung may masasaktan , my opinion lang )


    Hehe sabi ni Bostin Lloyd, "Don't make that as an excuse, either shoot up or shut the fuck up"

    No offense.
  • Big DawgBig Dawg Posts: 645
    One can be aesthetic & massive both. Guys like Branch, Jay, Ruhl, etc never fit that profile. Guys like Phil, Dexter and even the greatest himself - Arnold - were all beasts and yet look very aesthetically pleasing. That's what I'm always shooting for - massive as possible, yet symmetrical & balanced without the pregant GH gut. :)
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    haha sakin nga aesthetic mahirap abutin eh, massive pa kaya? lol

    To add, height ko pa at 5'4 1/2 hehe

    Chix reasons or self pleasing, aesthetics muna ako. Pag naabot ko na yun, doon ko na pag iisipan kung trip ko maging tulad ni Andrew Cifra hehe na napakalaking tao hehe
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    When I started lifting, primary reason ko talaga is health benefit , second is to LOOK GOOD na rin, :P . IMHO, regardless of what's your reason on lifting weight, It's still a damn good job if hanggang ngayon eh nag bubuhat ka pa rin, kase mapa chicks or health or to look good or for your family ang rason mo, slowly but surely, it will be your daily routine to lift weights. Parang magiging lifestyle mo na nag pagbubuhat baga,
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    Same, I started lifting to change my way of life since we all know na bs ang call center life plus syempre may iba pang rason. Then secondary goal na lang yung lumiit tyan at primary ay Lumakas dahil lampa talaga ako noon. :D

    Siguro naging bonus nal ang yung nagkaroon ako ng maskels at natural na poser ako kaya pumoposing ako ng mga flex flex lols di maiwasan since naka harap sa salamin hehe
  • Emman1986Emman1986 Posts: 1,819
    yan tayo eh, aminin na naten na pag may katawan eh additional pogi points yun at extra self confi na rin kaya yan ang isa sa mga patok na reason bakit tayo nag gym/workout/training :) syempre kasama na rin ung health pero like sir jettie from the south, nag training ako sa gym kasi mahairap ung 5'9" ka na 100lbs lang hahaha nadadala ng hangin hehehe
  • pacoy1002pacoy1002 Posts: 538
    Big Dawg wrote:
    One can be aesthetic & massive both. Guys like Branch, Jay, Ruhl, etc never fit that profile. Guys like Phil, Dexter and even the greatest himself - Arnold - were all beasts and yet look very aesthetically pleasing. That's what I'm always shooting for - massive as possible, yet symmetrical & balanced without the pregant GH gut. :)

    110% agree w/ BD, classic BB'ers like Serge Nubret etc....damn look better than most of todays..
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Going back, yes Alon Gay sounded like an arrogant kid.

    And, definitely I would choose Kai's physique.
    Kung ngayon pa lang lalagyan ko ng limit sarili ko siguradong di
    Ko maabot goals ko. Hindi ako yung tipo ng tao na pipiliin yung physique ni alon dahil mukang yun yung mas mas possible.
    Why settle for less when you can have the best?
    Dare to dream. Believe to achieve.

    Imo.
  • kehoekehoe Posts: 161
    Newbies opinion lang po... I go with aesthetic. Mukhang mahirap magkamot ng likod pag massive hehehe
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    kagabi ko lang napanood yung training nila. anyare kay Alon? hirap na hirap sa 225lbs incline BP. kahit sa flat BP 135lbs lang ata kaya nya buhatin ng maayos.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    badass_vinch wrote:
    kagabi ko lang napanood yung training nila. anyare kay Alon? hirap na hirap sa 225lbs incline BP. kahit sa flat BP 135lbs lang ata kaya nya buhatin ng maayos.

    Haha. Yep at nasa 8-10yrs na nagbubuhat yan.
    Actually, kung naumpisahan mo basic core wo pa lang matatawa ka na dun sa dalawa.
    Crunches pa lang mamatay na, tapos leg raises di magawa ng maayos? 6 pack abs? A decade of training? Ganun pa din? Lol humor me.
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