Journey to a strong back

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  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    I think it deserves a thread, a lot of people have trouble falling asleep. Lately medyo ako hahah. We can discuss iy further
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    8 tabs ng melatonin solb! parang high ka pa lol
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    @ monch

    I have just created a thread, Sleep Problems Q&A

    It's in the General Health section
  • DregPittDregPitt Posts: 987
    turo din sakin ni sir DS ung Box squats last GWO. baka gusto mo itry. sarap nun sa quads right after ng regular squats. 70 % ng weight ng regular squats ang ginagawa ko.. :D
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    upper back is still sore

    baka bukas na lang ako magbuhat, holiday naman :)

    bukas ko na lalamunin yung Goldilocks egg pie. ha ha
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Di ka nag iisa bro. Ako sakit pa din ng lahat ng tinrain ko nung sat hahaha.
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    haha lahat ata ng nag maximus masakit katawan lol!!!
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    Si milk lang hindi naka delts pa kahapon hahaha
  • milksworthmilksworth Posts: 3,130
    lol! may nag yayaya pa nga ng chest mamaya eh tinanggihan ko na lang. sabi ko arms ako eh ahaha. na OT na tuloy ahahah!
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 1 - Week 2 - Day 1 (Tuesday, October 15, 2013)
    body weight = 161 lbs

    Back Squat
    1st set - 64.5 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 74.5 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 84.5 lbs x 4 reps

    Bench Press
    1st set - 104.5 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 122 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 134.5 lbs x 4 reps

    Pause Squat
    1st set - 42 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 42 lbs x 5 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 84.5 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 84.5 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 84.5 lbs x 10 reps

    Push Ups
    1st set - body weight x 12 reps
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Just posting it here for my easy access and future reference

    So You Think You Can Squat (Parts 1-5)
    http://train.elitefts.com/instructional/so-you-think-you-can-squat-parts-1-5/

    So You Think You Can Bench (Parts1-7)
    http://train.elitefts.com/instructional/so-you-think-you-can-bench-parts1-7/

    So You Think You Can Deadlift? (Part 9)
    http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/so-you-think-you-can-deadlift-part-9/
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    nrg500 wrote:
    ^ gaano po kabigat ang weight sa pause squats ?

    ang training max ko po ngayon sa back squat ay 90 lbs

    Hmmmm... my take is start w/ box squats for now to learn how to sit back and also fire-up your hams/glutes right before going up. And train around 60-70% ng max mo 8-10 reps No need to go around 80-90% of your max since it's an assistance routine and also could be used as part of your hypertrophy sets. Paq medyo bumigat na poundage mo sa back squats ideally around 100+ lbs for your case then you can shift to pause squats eventually.
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 1 - Week 2 - Day 2 (Friday, October 25, 2013)
    body weight = 74 kgs

    Conventional Dead Lift
    1st set - 122 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 137 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 157 lbs x 4 reps

    Overhead Press
    1st set - 44.5 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 52 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 57 lbs x 4 reps

    Arm Exercise (no rest in between sets)
    1st set - Tricep Push Down @ 100 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - Hammer Curl @ 25 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - Tricep Push Down @ 100 lbs x 10 reps
    4th set - Hammer Curl @ 25 lbs x 8 reps
    5th set - Tricep Push Down @ 100 lbs x 8 reps
    6th set - Hammer Curl @ 25 lbs x 6 reps

    Push Ups
    1st set - body weight x 12 reps
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 1 - Week 3 - Day 1 (Monday, October 28, 2013)
    body weight = forgot to measure :)

    Back Squat
    1st set - 72 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 77 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 87 lbs x 3 reps

    Bench Press
    1st set - 112 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 127 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 142 lbs x 4 reps

    Stiff Leg Dead Lift
    1st set - 82 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 82 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 82 lbs x 8 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 82 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 92 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 92 lbs x 8 reps

    Push Ups
    1st set - body weight x 12 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 10 reps


    Training was great. I felt stronger in the Back Squat just by following the instructions in So You Think You Can Squat by Elite FTS. For the Bench Press, So You Think You Can Bench by Elite FTS was also a big help. I can now feel that I'm using leg drive.
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Looks I did the Stiff Leg Dead Lift right. I felt the stretch in my hamstring while doing it and my hamstrings feel a bit sore this morning
  • NamerNamer Posts: 99
    nrg, anong 531 na variation ang gamit mo? Paano ang workout mo for assistance?
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Ito yung mga set up na pwede sa Wendler 531

    4x a week
    3x a week
    2x a week

    Twice a week ang gamit ko due to my work and my studies

    Ang importante ay gamitin mo kung ano ang akma sa schedule mo


    Di pa finalized ang assistance lifts ko pero sure ball na ako sa stiff leg dead lift at barbell row. Basta dapat ay may gamit ang assistance lift na gagawin mo. The assistance lift should help build the main lifts
  • NamerNamer Posts: 99
    IMHO parang kulang lang sa volume. Try mo yung BBB na assistance. Yung variation ng main lift ang assistance mo for 5 sets of 10 reps. Bali pwedeng squat/squat or leg press or squat/ deadlift.
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 1 - Week 3 - Day 2 (Wednesday, October 30, 2013)
    body weight = ???

    Conventional Dead Lift
    1st set - 132 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 147 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 164.5 lbs x 3 reps

    Overhead Press
    1st set - 52 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 57 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 62 lbs x 5 reps

    Sumo Dead Lift
    1st set - 82 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 82 lbs x 10 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 97 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 97 lbs x 8 reps

    Chin Ups
    1st set - body weight x 7 reps

    Push Ups
    1st set - body weight x 9 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 12 reps
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 2 - Week 1 - Day 1 (Monday, November 04, 2013)
    body weight = 166 lbs

    Back Squat
    1st set - 67 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 77 lbs x 5 reps
    3rd set - 87 lbs x 6 reps

    Bench Press
    1st set - 102 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 114.5 lbs x 5 reps
    3rd set - 132 lbs x 8 reps

    Stiff Leg Dead Lift
    1st set - 87 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 87 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 87 lbs x 8 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 92 lbs x 9 reps
    2nd set - 92 lbs x 9 reps
    3rd set - 92 lbs x 9 reps

    Chin Ups
    1st set - body weight x 7 reps

    Push Ups
    1st set - body weight x 10 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 10 reps
    3rd set - body weight x 7 reps
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 2 - Week 1 - Day 2 (Thursday, November 07, 2013)
    body weight = 166 lbs

    Conventional Dead Lift
    1st set - 122 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 137 lbs x 5 reps
    3rd set - 157 lbs x 6 reps

    Overhead Press
    1st set - 47 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 52 lbs x 5 reps
    3rd set - 62 lbs x 6 reps

    Sumo Dead Lift
    1st set - 92 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 92 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 92 lbs x 8 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 92 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 92 lbs x 10 reps

    Chin Ups
    1st set - body weight x 6 reps

    Push Ups
    1st set - body weight x 10 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 10 reps
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 2 - Week 2 - Day 1 (Sunday, November 10, 2013)
    body weight = did not measure, probably still ~166 lbs

    Back Squat
    1st set - 72 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 82 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 92 lbs x 5 reps

    Bench Press
    1st set - 107 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 122 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 137 lbs x 5 reps

    Stiff Leg Dead Lift
    1st set - 82 lbs x 12 reps
    2nd set - 82 lbs x 12 reps
    3rd set - 82 lbs x 10 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 102 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 102 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 102 lbs x 8 reps

    Push Ups
    1st set - body weight x 10 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 10 reps
    3rd set - body weight x 10 reps


    I feel stronger in the Back Squat now. I think I could have done a 6th rep in the last set but I decided to be conservative. I have also followed Matt Wenning's advice to avoid looking at the mirror when setting up for the Back Squat

    The Bench Press felt great and I can feel I'm now using leg drive as shown in the Elite FTS instructional video
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 2 - Week 2 - Day 2 (Thursday, November 14, 2013)
    body weight = 167 lbs


    MAIN LIFTS

    Conventional Dead Lift
    1st set - 127 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 147 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 164.5 lbs x 5 reps

    Overhead Press
    1st set - 52 lbs x 3 reps
    2nd set - 57 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 64.5 lbs x 5 reps


    ASSISTANCE LIFTS

    Front Squat
    1st set - 52 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 62 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 62 lbs x 10 reps

    Chin Ups
    1st set - body weight x 4 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 4 reps
    3rd set - body weight x 4 reps

    Barbell Bench Press
    1st set - 82 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 92 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 102 lbs x 10 reps
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 2 - Week 3 - Day 1 (SUnday, November 17, 2013)
    body weight = 166 lbs


    MAIN LIFTS

    Back Squat
    1st set - 77 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 87 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 97 lbs x 4 reps

    Bench Press
    1st set - 114.5 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 132 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 147 lbs x 3 reps


    ASSISTANCE LIFTS

    Stiff Leg Dead Lift
    1st set - 82 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 82 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 82 lbs x 10 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 102 lbs x 9 reps
    2nd set - 102 lbs x 9 reps
    3rd set - 102 lbs x 9 reps

    Overhead Press
    1st set - 42 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 42 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 42 lbs x 10 reps


    As stated in Beyond 531, the Press and the Bench Press can be used as assistance lifts. Press as an assistance lift on Bench Press day and Bench Press as an assistance lift on Press day. I will experiment with it and see how it affects the main lifts

    Workout was great. I have now exceeded my best record in back squat before I started Wendler 531 training. From 90 lbs @ 4 reps to 97 lbs @ 4 reps. I could have done probably a 5th rep or 6th rep but I backed off
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 2 - Week 3 - Day 2 (Thursday, November 21, 2013)
    body weight = 165 lbs (measured upon waking up in the morning)


    MAIN LIFTS

    Conventional Dead Lift
    1st set - 137 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 154.5 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 174.5 lbs x 3 reps

    Overhead Press
    1st set - 52 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 62 lbs x 3 reps
    3rd set - 67 lbs x 4 reps


    ASSISTANCE LIFTS

    Front Squat
    1st set - 52 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 52 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 52 lbs x 10 reps

    Chin Ups
    1st set - body weight x 4 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 4 reps
    3rd set - body weight x 4 reps

    Barbell Bench Press
    1st set - 92 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 92 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 102 lbs x 10 reps


    I feel like crap before the workout but I'm surprised the crappy feeling was gone after the 1st set of Dead Lift. In the last set, I felt I could do more than 3 reps but decided to stop at 3 reps. I'm excited to break my past record of 177 lbs x 6 reps.

    I'm still on Intermittent Fasting but I don't train in the fasted state anymore.

    I think I'm stronger than when I started Wendler 531. It's true that one does not have to train at maximal level to gain strength
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 3 - Week 1 - Day 1 (SUnday, November 24, 2013)
    body weight = ???


    MAIN LIFTS

    Back Squat
    1st set - 72 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 84.5 lbs x 5 reps
    3rd set - 94.5 lbs x 6 reps

    Bench Press
    1st set - 102 lbs x 5 reps
    2nd set - 122 lbs x 5 reps
    3rd set - 134.5 lbs x 6 reps


    ASSISTANCE LIFTS

    Stiff Leg Dead Lift
    1st set - 87 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 87 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 87 lbs x 8 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 102 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 102 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 102 lbs x 10 reps

    Military Press
    1st set - 44.5 lbs x 10 reps
    2nd set - 44.5 lbs x 10 reps
    3rd set - 44.5 lbs x 9 reps


    A 1-minute rest between sets of the ASSISTANCE LIFTS felt very taxing. I even failed to get a 10th rep in the last set of Military Press
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 3 - Week 1 - Day 2 (Wednesday, November 27, 2013)
    body weight = ???

    NOTE: TM (training max) = 90% of 1RM


    MAIN LIFTS

    Conventional Dead Lift
    1st set - 127 lbs x 5 reps (65% of TM x 5 reps)
    2nd set - 147 lbs x 5 reps (75% of TM x 5 reps)
    3rd set - 167 lbs x 6 reps (85% of TM x 5 reps or more)

    Military Press
    1st set - 52 lbs x 5 reps (65% of TM x 5 reps)
    2nd set - 57 lbs x 5 reps (75% of TM x 5 reps)
    3rd set - 67 lbs x 6 reps (85% of TM x 5 reps or more)


    ASSISTANCE LIFTS

    Barbell Bench Press
    1st set - 102 lbs x 10 reps (60% of TM x 10 reps)
    2nd set - 102 lbs x 10 reps (60% of TM x 10 reps)
    3rd set - 102 lbs x 10 reps (60% of TM x 10 reps)


    I was really tired from attending the IIEE Convention 2013 at SMX. On my way home, I can really feel the tiredness. I still decided to lift and was able to lift the prescribed weights and reps. Rest between working sets is 3 to 5 minutes

    Only did Bench Press as an assistance lift since I'm really tired. Rest between working sets is 1 minute
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    Wendler 531 (twice a week template)
    Cycle 3 - 3x3 Week - Day 1 (Sunday, December 01, 2013)
    body weight = 174 lbs

    NOTE: TM (training max) = 90% of 1RM


    MAIN LIFTS

    Back Squat
    1st set - 82 lbs x 3 reps (70% of TM x 3 reps)
    2nd set - 92 lbs x 3 reps (80% of TM x 3 reps)
    3rd set - 102 lbs x 5 reps (90% of TM x 3 reps or more)

    Bench Press
    1st set - 112 lbs x 3 reps (70% of TM x 3 reps)
    2nd set - 127 lbs x 3 reps (80% of TM x 3 reps)
    3rd set - 142 lbs x 5 reps (90% of TM x 3 reps or more)


    ASSISTANCE LIFTS

    Stiff Leg Dead Lift
    1st set - 87 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 87 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 87 lbs x 8 reps

    Barbell Row
    1st set - 107 lbs x 8 reps
    2nd set - 107 lbs x 8 reps
    3rd set - 107 lbs x 8 reps

    Military Press
    1st set - 42 lbs x 10 reps (55% of TM x 10 reps)
    2nd set - 42 lbs x 10 reps (55% of TM x 10 reps)
    3rd set - 42 lbs x 10 reps (55% of TM x 10 reps)

    Chin Up
    1st set - body weight x 6 reps
    2nd set - body weight x 4 reps


    Workout was great despite having a f*cked up sleep for the past 3 days. I was able to do the prescribed reps for the main lifts. Rest period for main lifts is 3 to 5 minutes

    For the assistance lifts except chin up, rest period was 1 minute. Rest period for Chin Up is ~3 minutes since I have gotten heavier. Most of the weight gain is probably fat but it's ok

    I am not training in the fasted state anymore since the 2nd cycle of Wendler 531. Fasted training sucks when paired with high volume training. I noticed that I can now do 4 assistance lifts despite there are 2 main lifts in the same training day. I still fast for 16 hours a day but I do it for the purpose of minimizing fat gain
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Laki na ng binigat mo brah. GJ
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