Tama ba ang form ng squat mo? - The plague of high squats

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  • May nagsquats dins samin 300lbs super partial squats. onting upo lang haha.
  • May nagsquats dins samin 300lbs super partial squats. onting upo lang haha.

    Bro. Goodluck sa lowerback at tuhod nya. :sport:
  • miguelmiguel Posts: 895
    normal lang ba makafeel ng weird feeling sa knees? kahit di ako nagwowork out nararamdaman ko. di naman masakit pero when i feel it i know its because of the squats.
    does nyone here feel the same way?
    can we be friends?
    haha joke lang pero seryoso mga sir.
  • miguel wrote:
    normal lang ba makafeel ng weird feeling sa knees? kahit di ako nagwowork out nararamdaman ko. di naman masakit pero when i feel it i know its because of the squats.
    does nyone here feel the same way?
    can we be friends?
    haha joke lang pero seryoso mga sir.

    Bka sa form mo yan bro. Check mo to: http://stronglifts.com/free-video-how-to-squat-with-proper-form/

    Tapos kung posible, i-video mo ung pag squat mo para makita natin kung sa form nga ang problema. cheers
  • ^ onga bro tapos pinagmamasdan ko din sya while doing those squats. knees are caving in. pero macho man na din sya. nagtaka lang ako kung bakit ganun squats niya.
  • lastresortlastresort Posts: 1,116
    napagod ako sa thread na toh.. whew
  • acidoacido Posts: 336
    Fyi lang po found it somewhere sa net


    Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe
    Dave:

    Thanks for bringing this up. Squat depth is critically important, but so is correct form. ATG-level depth most usually requires that the lumbar muscles relax the lordosis and that the hamstrings relax before extreme depth can be reached. It doesn't sound like a good idea to me that anything be relaxed in a deep squat, since doing this kills your good controlled rebound out of the bottom and risks your intervertebral discs. Those rare individuals that can obtain ass-to-ankles depth without relaxing anything might be able to get away with it, but as a general rule you should squat as deep as you can with a hard-arched lower back and tight hamstings and adductors. This depth will be below parallel, but it will not usually be "ATG".

    Rip
  • dorobodorobo Posts: 27
    Dilikado ung ginagawa nung nasa video haha.. na a-outbalance pa siya lol:banghead:
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    acido wrote:
    Fyi lang po found it somewhere sa net


    Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe
    Dave:

    Thanks for bringing this up. Squat depth is critically important, but so is correct form. ATG-level depth most usually requires that the lumbar muscles relax the lordosis and that the hamstrings relax before extreme depth can be reached. It doesn't sound like a good idea to me that anything be relaxed in a deep squat, since doing this kills your good controlled rebound out of the bottom and risks your intervertebral discs. Those rare individuals that can obtain ass-to-ankles depth without relaxing anything might be able to get away with it, but as a general rule you should squat as deep as you can with a hard-arched lower back and tight hamstings and adductors. This depth will be below parallel, but it will not usually be "ATG".

    Rip

    Correct. Try it Bro and see if you can go ATG with everything "tight" on your descent.
  • acidoacido Posts: 336
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    acido wrote:
    Fyi lang po found it somewhere sa net


    Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe
    Dave:

    Thanks for bringing this up. Squat depth is critically important, but so is correct form. ATG-level depth most usually requires that the lumbar muscles relax the lordosis and that the hamstrings relax before extreme depth can be reached. It doesn't sound like a good idea to me that anything be relaxed in a deep squat, since doing this kills your good controlled rebound out of the bottom and risks your intervertebral discs. Those rare individuals that can obtain ass-to-ankles depth without relaxing anything might be able to get away with it, but as a general rule you should squat as deep as you can with a hard-arched lower back and tight hamstings and adductors. This depth will be below parallel, but it will not usually be "ATG".

    Rip

    Correct. Try it Bro and see if you can go ATG with everything "tight" on your descent.

    kaya :sport: since nakapag squat ako sa rack ass to grass lang talaga, feeling ko sasakit tuhod ko pag pinigilan ko midway.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Then good for you. Most of us kasi pag sobrang tight ng hammies di mo na ma break below parallel, yan yung sinasabi ni Rip jan which is mahirap since you can't generate enough power to bounce from the hole if your ham's are relaxed.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    miguel wrote:
    normal lang ba makafeel ng weird feeling sa knees? kahit di ako nagwowork out nararamdaman ko. di naman masakit pero when i feel it i know its because of the squats.
    does nyone here feel the same way?
    can we be friends?
    haha joke lang pero seryoso mga sir.

    Ako hindi.
    Sa tingin ko sa form mo yan bro.
    Ako nakakahiya man aminin pero ngayon I can only squat 110 (bar weight not yet included)) for 6 reps, yung paangat pa nun masuka suka na ko. Pero it's parallel to below parallel. I say parallel to below parallel siyempre hindi 100% lahat ng reps ko pare pareho. Kailangan pa ng practice. Hind partial squat or gayly squat.
    Kung partial gagawen ko kahit 2x niyang weight na yan siguro tapos high reps pa lol
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Then good for you. Most of us kasi pag sobrang tight ng hammies di mo na ma break below parallel, yan yung sinasabi ni Rip jan which is mahirap since you can't generate enough power to bounce from the hole if your ham's are relaxed.

    So sir Mighty ano mas better for an average joe?
    Parallel?
    Below parallel?
    ATG?

    Dumating kasi ako sa punto na pumasok sa isip ko mag ATG kahit medjo bumama yung poundage ko basta masanay lang ako ng deep squat. Ngayon hindi ko na alam kung tama ba yun hehe.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    ATG syempre granting you're doing it right.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Thanks master, pag aralan ko yan at subukan ko this weekSa ATG ba dapat magdidikit yung calves sa hammies?
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Yun na palatandaan mo na ATG na squat mo.

    Olympic-Squats.jpg

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    Squat+Guide.jpg
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Wow. Ganda ng pinost mong image sir, dami ako natutunan.
    Sa last pic, so pag below parallel considered na pala yun as ATG?
    Akala ko kasi yung babang baba pa jan. Yung halos buong hams e naka dikit na sa calves.
    Sinubukan ko yung ganun dati kaya lang parang upong upo na yung pakiramdam at mahirap na umangat lalo.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    For me ok na yun basta below parallel. Wala naman masama if kaya mo pa ng mas mababa parang mga Oly lifters gaya nito.

    Front-Squat.jpg
  • @allen ang pinaka important talaga kasi is you never get "loose" lalo na sa baba ng movement kasi important yung 'bounce" sa baba pagdating sa muscle activation. saka isa pa mawawala ang "explosiveness" mo dun sa movement.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Thanks sir mighty. Kung atg na din pala ang below parallel e ok na pala. Nagagawa ko yan ng ilang reps sa isang set, though yung iba ko parallel kapag ka gay mode na ko at takot na ko bumaba pa hehe.
    Yung nga sir DS medjo hirap na nga kasi umangat pag napa upo n ng gaya sa pic, kala ko kasi ganyan talaga dapat ang ATG e, kala ko literal na ass-to-grass ahaha.
  • acidoacido Posts: 336
    Mas mahirap ba daw mag squat using saftey squat bar kesa normal bar ?
  • i wouldn't know exactly, but if your looking for a movement daw na similar sa back squat is the trap bar deadlift.
  • jcumali008jcumali008 Posts: 1,090
    @allen ang pinaka important talaga kasi is you never get "loose" lalo na sa baba ng movement kasi important yung 'bounce" sa baba pagdating sa muscle activation. saka isa pa mawawala ang "explosiveness" mo dun sa movement.

    ah dapat pala sir nagbobounce?
  • dorobodorobo Posts: 27
    Gumagamit ba kayo ng belt pag nag ssquat? parang naiipit yung mga bituka ko eh..
  • emon02emon02 Posts: 700
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    For me ok na yun basta below parallel. Wala naman masama if kaya mo pa ng mas mababa parang mga Oly lifters gaya nito.

    Front-Squat.jpg

    ang hirap na imaintain yung tightness kapag ganito kababa, parang mamatae ka na lol.
    @allen ang pinaka important talaga kasi is you never get "loose" lalo na sa baba ng movement kasi important yung 'bounce" sa baba pagdating sa muscle activation. saka isa pa mawawala ang "explosiveness" mo dun sa movement.

    ahh, ganun pala yun, kala ko parang cheat yung pagbounce. hahahaha ako kasi mejo nagstop ng 1sec, ayun parang magsusuka na ko
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Paanong bounce ba iniisip niyo? Hehe
  • Rene wrote:
    Yung nasa video,,,bad form, weight too heavy, butt shaking,,,,injury waiting to happen. Mas effective kung kaya niya controlin yung bigat at mas mababa tulad ng example picture B. Sa gym kasi mixture ng opinion kung anong tama at anong hindi. Sana correct ng staff sa gym, pero pwede din hindi sundin ang advice. At least sa gym namin matulong mga staff sa correct form at execution.



    buti sa gym nyo po my staff n mag aasist sa tamang form heheh sa pinag ggyman ko nganga bahala ka bumuhat dyn bhaehahahaha, kya dami ko nakita ganda katawan pero manipis... pero mababait nmn sila.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    ^ Kung wala ka mahihingian ng tulong personally, wala kang choice, youtube ang kailangan mo haha.
    Basta make sure na tama din pinapanuod mo hehe
  • allen101 wrote:
    ^ Kung wala ka mahihingian ng tulong personally, wala kang choice, youtube ang kailangan mo haha.
    Basta make sure na tama din pinapanuod mo hehe

    OO nga po Sir e. pero and best site itong PBB.com halos lahat at nandito na hehehe. Salute ako dito sa site dami ko natutunan dito sa site na to. heheh lalo na sa mga KUa dito hehehe. dami pa nag shashare ng Idea nila heheh. dito ko nga lng nalmn yung bulking and cutting my ganun palang stage bhahawhahahaha. di kc tinuturo yon sa gym e. hyehehhee. hehehe.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Kung sa bakal gym ka din nagbubuhat, madalas kasi yung mga PT dun (hindi naman lahat) hindi na sila updated at limited lang yung alam nila.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    2nk13c6.jpg

    Haha
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