Diet daw si Taba.

:sleepy: 3 days na ako nagcacardio at kanina after workout ko, I feel lost. Parang nagsasayang lang ako ng oras at pera sa gym. =(

Nag start ako(first time) para sa weight loss at body toning pero walang proper training basta gumagamit lang ako ng threadmill, stationary bike at elliptical trainer since may promo din ung gym.

Ung pagkain, wala as in tiis-gutom. Minsan kung ano ano nalang basta konting pagkain lang.

:unhappy: Hindi ko po alam kung saan ako mag-start, wala po akong program, meal plan. Ayokong mag quit pero parang niloloko ko lang sarili ko kapag nasa gym na nagpapapawis lang. I need your help guys, I need your inputs when it comes to program at meal plan(ano pong kakain ko araw araw). Ok din ba habang nagwowork out inom ng inom ng malamig na tubig?

Thanks in advance at pasintabi sa katawan ko.:blush:
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  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    first and foremost..

    welcome!
    Nag start ako(first time) para sa weight loss at body toning pero walang proper training basta gumagamit lang ako ng threadmill, stationary bike at elliptical trainer since may promo din ung gym.

    good job since you know your goal ( weight loss). secondly, I think you are on the right track, incorporating cardio on your workout.
    Ung pagkain, wala as in tiis-gutom. Minsan kung ano ano nalang basta konting pagkain lang.

    di mo kailangan mag tiis gutom para pumayat bro. compute natin macros mo based sa goal mo na lose weight.
    Hindi ko po alam kung saan ako mag-start, wala po akong program, meal plan. Ayokong mag quit pero parang niloloko ko lang sarili ko kapag nasa gym na nagpapapawis lang

    good job on being honest as well, wag ka mag alala, tutulungan ka namin,just be open minded sa lahat nang information and for sure marami kang matutunan dito.ok... based sa info mo
    Weight : 220
    Height : 5'5
    age : ? assume ko 25.

    I'll be using IIFYM calculator para makuha natin total calorie na dapat maconsume mo per day.

    Step 2: Choose Your Goals (and pick your intensity)

    Fat Loss (Suggested 15% deficit of maintenance )
    2235 CALORIES/DAY

    now, compute natin macros per day

    Carbs : 165.5g
    Protein : 220g
    Fat : 77g
    Fiber : 44 - 55 g
    Total : 2235 g

    you can eat 3 times, 4 time, 5 times a day just make sure na di lalagpas nang 2.1 - 2.2k cal per day ka.

    Work out

    Cardio :
    I'm a big fan of cardio nung nag papayat ako, based sa pic mo, take it slow, do LISS, ( long intensity ) ( 2 - 4 times a week )

    Focus on compound lifts, IMO, you're better off doing compound lifts instead of isolation exercise.

    edit :
    made some adjustment on the macros, baka kase masyadong mataas yung 20% deficit eh, made it 15%.
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    Age: 22

    ***Fat Loss (Suggested 15% deficit of maintenance )
    2,305 CALORIES/DAY

    now, compute natin macros per day

    Carbs : 149.3 g
    Protein : 220 g
    Fat : 77 g
    Fiber : 44 - 55 g
    Total : 2170 g***

    Thanks sir, pero hindi pa po ako marunong umintindi nito. Ung total po ba na 2170 ay ung dapat iconsume ko sa isang araw?

    Carbs : 149.3 g = 2 cups of rice?
    Protein : 220 g = chicken breasts, eggs?
    Fiber : 44 - 55 g = oatmeals?

    Correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks.

    Ano po maisusuggest niyo na tamang workout(program)? Nangangapa po talaga ako sa gym, minsan nanggagaya na nga lang ako pag dating sa mga cardio machines sa ibang nagwoworkout.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Carbs : 149.3 g = 2 cups of rice?
    Protein : 220 g = chicken breasts, eggs?
    Fiber : 44 - 55 g = oatmeals?

    wait lang kuya, balikan kita, kuha ko na age mo, recompute tayo. ilang araw workout mo?
    ***Fat Loss (Suggested 15% deficit of maintenance )
    2324 CALORIES/DAY

    now, compute natin macros per day

    Carbs :187.8 g
    Protein : 220 g
    Fat : 77 g
    Fiber : 44 - 55 g
    Total : 2324

    heto na.

    ok, so your question is..
    Thanks sir, pero hindi pa po ako marunong umintindi nito. Ung total po ba na 2170 ay ung dapat iconsume ko sa isang araw?

    Carbs : 149.3 g = 2 cups of rice?
    Protein : 220 g = chicken breasts, eggs?
    Fiber : 44 - 55 g = oatmeals?

    tama 2324 calorie per day.
    suggestion ko :
    1. bili ka food scale ( sa sm meron nito, pwede rin cnc, kahit mumurahin lang)
    2. sa celphone mo, down load ka nang kahit anong calorie tracker ( I use myfitnessapp. )
    3. timbangin mo ang kinakain mo, tapos input mo dun, it will show you kung ano ilang Carbs, Protein and fats nakain mo.

    example :
    click mo na lang bro,

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/rtravino29?date=2014-07-26
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    6 days a week sir.
    mon-fri 1hr to 1 1/2hr
    Sat or sun 2hrs.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    lopau wrote:
    6 days a week sir.
    mon-fri 1hr to 1 1/2hr
    Sat or sun 2hrs.

    6 days?? di ka ba nahihirapan?
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    Ok lang, nahihirapan langi ako sa tulog kasi nagwowork din ako at ung pahinga ko sa umaga, nilalaan ko para sa gym.

    Ano po maisusuggest niyo na tamang workout(program)? Nangangapa po talaga ako sa gym. Pwede na ba ako mag lift or focus muna sa cardio, aim ko sana 200lbs below to start lifting.
    rtravino29 wrote:

    Private sir ung link.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Ano po maisusuggest niyo na tamang workout(program)? Nangangapa po talaga ako sa gym. Pwede na ba ako mag lift or focus muna sa cardio, aim ko sana 200lbs below to start lifting

    I honestly think that you need to focus on both.

    about work out, as i've said, focus on compound lifts,
    you can try the basic 5x5, ( strong lift 5x5, starting strenght to name a few )http://www.myfitnesspal.com/reports/printable_diary/rtravino29?from=2014-07-26&to=2014-07-26

    eto bro
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    try mo ulet, sorry, hehe@!

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/reports/printable_diary/rtravino29?from=2014-07-26&to=2014-07-26

    muukhang nag loloko ah, naka public na eh,

    ok na.
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    Thanks sir, naview ko na. Will start clean eating tomorrow at mag lift na din ako ng pakonti konti. Thanks nabuhayan ako at mas naexcite mag workout bukas.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Will start clean eating tomorrow at mag lift na din ako ng pakonti konti. Thanks nabuhayan ako at mas naexcite mag workout bukas.
    what's that? hehe!
    good luck! ma aadvice ko lang sayo eh be consistent, focus on your goal, wag panghinaan nang loob. kaya yan! :sport:
  • OhsnapOhsnap Posts: 425
    Welcome bro

    Mapapayo ko lang eh, wag mo muna isipin ang diet. Mababaliw ka kakaisip sa macros haha. Kung beginner ka pa lang, do some crazy things para sa level mo (may kanya kanya tayong definition ng hirap base sa body naten) hehe ang sakin lang do something beyond sa dati mong ginagawa. 1hr sa gym is enough. Try flat BB press tapos kahit 50m burst lang ng sprint between sets. Then squat tapos lagyan mo ng 10reps jumping jack in between sets. Haha kesa spending your time sa threadmill.
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    Meron po ba kayong link para sa pag gamit ng gym equipments? additional pay kasi kapag need ng trainer para ifacilitate ang member sa mga equipments eh. Thanks in advance.
  • kehoekehoe Posts: 161
    Ang take ko sa condition mo.
    Kung dati kumakain ka ng 3 cups of rice per meal (just an example) bawasan mo muna ng kalahati (1.5 cups) then when your body adjusted (this should not take more than a month or two) dun ka mag star ng macro computation.

    Reason: any drastic change na gagawin mo sa katawan mo ay hindi basta basta kayang i-adopt nito. Di siya kailangang in a snap from 3 cups of rice gawin mo kaagad na 1 cup kasi If you’re cutting down on your calorie intake while increasing your physical activity, your body might not have enough energy to keep you going. Make sure you don’t crash diet, especially if you’re exercising every day. (May cause hormonal change that can lead to: madaling magalit, fatigue, pimples, hair loss -medically speaking lang).

    Sa exercisr i go with 20-30 minutes na elliptical intensity 9-11, height or elevation niya 4.5+ Tapos try mo bilisan for 20 seconds then slow ng 30 seconds ulit ulit lang (for week or two then after nun try 20 seconds mabilis then 20 seconds slow for a week or two gangang kaya na siya ng katawan mo then pag kaya mo na try mo 20 secs mabilis then 10 deconds rest. (I personally used this and nag drop yung weight ko from 88-90kgs to 76-78kgs sinamahan ko siya ng compound exercise).

    Sa lifting compound edercise dapat:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/finder/lookup/mechanictype/1/compound

    Tip: yung iba titignan ka, may tatawanan ka, pagkukwentuhan ka, may maawa sayo, may maiilang sayo, some may not use the equipment youve used, yung iba lalayuan ka, dont mind them "You dont go to the gym to socialize or get their attention - dont be distracted by those people who doesnt know what's your goal ang intention"

    I was an obese... Done all the stupid workout routine... Tried all the new tricks from the net... Gulp all the slimming pills I heard effective... But what really works?

    1. Believe in yourself
    2. Focus on your goal
    3. Consistency sa workout mo (di dahilan ang malakas ang ulan dahil sa bagyo para hindi ka mag gym)
    4. Tamang pagkain ( kain ka ng carbs, protein, fiber - it is your option if you want clean or anything goes as long as kaya mo iburn - sabi ni Jeff Seid (i eat pizza, burger, fries) Your life options and choices should not be based from what peope tells you.
    5. Be realistic - hindi ka papayat within a day or a week. You will notice some changes after a month, Others will see slight changes after two months, everyone will notice slight changes after 3 months. After 6 months all who knows you will be saying pumayat ka.

    Disclaimer: Di dahil nag work sa kanila, or akin that means mageork sayo. You need to find what fits you Kaya may options, choices at free will ka. Trial and error until you find the routine na hiyang ka.Mahirap pala talaga mag reply using smartphone LOL
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    ^ Thanks sir sa input lalo na sa link and I'm working on it.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    kehoe wrote:
    If you’re cutting down on your calorie intake while increasing your physical activity, your body might not have enough energy to keep you going.

    Sounds like double whammy to me...
    kehoe wrote:
    (May cause hormonal change that can lead to: madaling magalit, fatigue, pimples, hair loss -medically speaking lang).

    Unless it runs on the family...
    kehoe wrote:
    Sa exercisr i go with 20-30 minutes na elliptical intensity 9-11, height or elevation niya 4.5+ Tapos try mo bilisan for 20 seconds then slow ng 30 seconds ulit ulit lang (for week or two then after nun try 20 seconds mabilis then 20 seconds slow for a week or two gangang kaya na siya ng katawan mo then pag kaya mo na try mo 20 secs mabilis then 10 deconds rest. (I personally used this and nag drop yung weight ko from 88-90kgs to 76-78kgs sinamahan ko siya ng compound exercise).

    You need to understand the calorie equation, IMO, rather to self proclaim something works on you or the other way around. Also, you don't have to complicate things yet and used much of all the playing cards at once, or else you'll end up with your moves limited later.
  • kehoekehoe Posts: 161
    @Core i clearly stated po a disclaimer :)
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    Thanks Core, noted.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    kehoe wrote:
    @Core i clearly stated po a disclaimer :)

    I've read that one. But I hope you get what I'm trying to point out...
    You need to understand the calorie equation...
  • kehoekehoe Posts: 161
    Core wrote:
    kehoe wrote:
    @Core i clearly stated po a disclaimer :)

    I've read that one. But I hope you get what I'm trying to point out...
    You need to understand the calorie equation...

    Opo. :)
  • Emman1986Emman1986 Posts: 1,819
    brader, goodluck sayo at maipapayo ko lang sayo, wag ka sususko sa gusto mo mangyari sa katawan mo. maaring matagal o mahirap, pero walang sukuan. walang madali sa mundo, matagalan ka man mahalaga di ka sumuko.. marami pang mas malaki sayo ang nagbago ang pangangatawan dahil sa sipag at tyaga. :) kaya mo yan!
  • moi_panmoi_pan Posts: 144
    Emman1986 wrote:
    brader, goodluck sayo at maipapayo ko lang sayo, wag ka sususko sa gusto mo mangyari sa katawan mo. maaring matagal o mahirap, pero walang sukuan. walang madali sa mundo, matagalan ka man mahalaga di ka sumuko.. marami pang mas malaki sayo ang nagbago ang pangangatawan dahil sa sipag at tyaga. :) kaya mo yan!

    tama si sir emman kaya mo yan ako nga kinaya ko eh lol!!!!!!!!!

    kidding aside kaya mo yan check mo journal ko taba taba ko din , napahinga lang ako ngayun saka na ko mag post ng progress pic
  • mikol22mikol22 Posts: 497
    sir Welcome sa PBB...hindi pinoy big brother ha, hehe...

    magiging part na yan ng lifestyle nyo kaya if sked mo talaga ng gym ngayon araw eh walang excuse...gudlak brah!
  • Big DawgBig Dawg Posts: 645
    Hi Pau I just want to add a couple things that may help you. I will start by saying that you do NOT need to get in 220 grams of protien per day. That is far too much. Usually it is recommended that someone try to get in 1 gram of protein per pound of lean bodyweight. To be safe in making sure one is getting in enough protein, many deviate from that "lean weight" and just go with total weight. However, that protocol doesn't fit if someone is carrying a very high amount of bodyfat like you currently are. At 5'5, and never having worked out seriously, it's probably safe to say that you have no more than 125-150 pounds of lean mass. So even if you take in only 125-150 grams of protein per day, you will be good to go.

    Additonally I would like to add that there is no "calculator" that can just give you an exact number of calories that you need at this point. Reason is, no calculator, or nobody here for that matter, knows about your metabolism. Example: are you the type of guy that has become so overweight from merely over eating? Like, do you always eat more than others, putting more food on your plate, or always going back for seconds? Or do you find that even though you eat the same as others or even less, you still keep gaining or can't lose? If the latter, could be you just have a very slow metabolism.

    My point is this - perhaps you just have a normal metab and yet overeating or eating alot of junk, processed foods and/or high in saturated fat, which all provide very many calories in only small amounts compared to clean eating. One surely is going to get in alot more cals eating 1 cup of ice cream compared to 1 cup of broccoli for example. OR, you may be eating the normal amounts or even less than others, and yet still are overweight. NOBODY can tell you the exact amount of cals you need to shoot for until you lay out what you have been eating on a regualr basis that has lead to where you are now. You have to be honest about it - list everything. Only then can someone come up with at least a ballpark figure for you to shoot for.

    Also I seen a previous post about not cool to cut cals and increase activity simultaneously. WTF? That is what you DO want to do. Sure, you don't want to go overboard with it from jump, or you may get depressed and not stick with it. But do it gradually - you need to look at what you have been eating on a daily basis, and total up the cals. Only then can you know a more accurate number of where to start the calorie deficit from. Just as important is you need to become more active overall. You would be surprised how much fat you can lose just merely starting to walk on a regular basis, even if it's starting out at 1 or 2x around the block. The reason America is 30% obese these days is because of computers, gaming and watching TV. Nobody likes to go out and be active anymore with all the tech toys to play with. Activity is sooo important, I can't stress that enough.

    I will add, when it comes to the weights, IMO you do NOT want to start out with any 5 x5 or strength training. Reason being is in your beginning stages you want to learn how to perform all lifts with proper form, and what create proper form? Practice. Practice = repetiton. You are going to find that "groove" much faster doing sets of 10-15 reps compared to 5 only.

    Lastly I will just add that losing weight is simple on paper, but hard on the willpower. It's all in how much you want it. Results take time, so stick with it. If you take only one thing from this post, it should be there is NO magic, and don't make it rocket science - you merely need to start taking in less cals and become more active - period. Do it gradually so you will stick with it. If you do indeed follow that advice and yet still see no results after a fair amount of time, then perhaps you have a thyroid or other hormonal imbalance and need to go see a specialist to check it out.

    p.s - Don't mean to offend anybody if I contradicted your advice, I'm just giving my input from having a long time in the game.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    p.s - Don't mean to offend anybody if I contradicted your advice, I'm just giving my input from having a long time in the game.
    none taken sir D! in the contrary, it's quite educational in our part, : )
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    Emman1986 wrote:
    brader, goodluck sayo at maipapayo ko lang sayo, wag ka sususko sa gusto mo mangyari sa katawan mo. maaring matagal o mahirap, pero walang sukuan. walang madali sa mundo, matagalan ka man mahalaga di ka sumuko.. marami pang mas malaki sayo ang nagbago ang pangangatawan dahil sa sipag at tyaga. :) kaya mo yan!

    Thank you sir. Nawalan lang talaga ako ng gana nung first 3 days kasi nga wala akong alam sa pinasok ko. Buti nalang at may nagrefer nitong page.
    mikol22 wrote:
    sir Welcome sa PBB...hindi pinoy big brother ha, hehe...

    magiging part na yan ng lifestyle nyo kaya if sked mo talaga ng gym ngayon araw eh walang excuse...gudlak brah!

    Thank you sir. Target ko nga 7days a week since mon-fri 1hr alloted kong time since may work pa ako. Wala din akong rason para magpaliban kasi sa umaga ginigising ako ng ermats ko para pumunta sa gym.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    The reason America is 30% obese these days is because of computers, gaming and watching TV. Nobody likes to go out and be active anymore with all the tech toys to play with. Activity is sooo important, I can't stress that enough.

    So true.. I suddenly remember this post from Alan Aragon
    The obesity problem in America is not due to the GI of carbs consumed. It's due to an unused caloric excess from either too much sitting on your ass, too much eating, or a combination of both. Not too tough to comprehend.
  • lopaulopau Posts: 13
    Big Dawg wrote:
    Hi Pau I just want to add a couple things that may help you. I will start by saying that you do NOT need to get in 220 grams of protien per day. That is far too much. Usually it is recommended that someone try to get in 1 gram of protein per pound of lean bodyweight. To be safe in making sure one is getting in enough protein, many deviate from that "lean weight" and just go with total weight. However, that protocol doesn't fit if someone is carrying a very high amount of bodyfat like you currently are. At 5'5, and never having worked out seriously, it's probably safe to say that you have no more than 125-150 pounds of lean mass. So even if you take in only 125-150 grams of protein per day, you will be good to go.

    Additonally I would like to add that there is no "calculator" that can just give you an exact number of calories that you need at this point. Reason is, no calculator, or nobody here for that matter, knows about your metabolism. Example: are you the type of guy that has become so overweight from merely over eating? Like, do you always eat more than others, putting more food on your plate, or always going back for seconds? Or do you find that even though you eat the same as others or even less, you still keep gaining or can't lose? If the latter, could be you just have a very slow metabolism.

    My point is this - perhaps you just have a normal metab and yet overeating or eating alot of junk, processed foods and/or high in saturated fat, which all provide very many calories in only small amounts compared to clean eating. One surely is going to get in alot more cals eating 1 cup of ice cream compared to 1 cup of broccoli for example. OR, you may be eating the normal amounts or even less than others, and yet still are overweight. NOBODY can tell you the exact amount of cals you need to shoot for until you lay out what you have been eating on a regualr basis that has lead to where you are now. You have to be honest about it - list everything. Only then can someone come up with at least a ballpark figure for you to shoot for.

    Also I seen a previous post about not cool to cut cals and increase activity simultaneously. WTF? That is what you DO want to do. Sure, you don't want to go overboard with it from jump, or you may get depressed and not stick with it. But do it gradually - you need to look at what you have been eating on a daily basis, and total up the cals. Only then can you know a more accurate number of where to start the calorie deficit from. Just as important is you need to become more active overall. You would be surprised how much fat you can lose just merely starting to walk on a regular basis, even if it's starting out at 1 or 2x around the block. The reason America is 30% obese these days is because of computers, gaming and watching TV. Nobody likes to go out and be active anymore with all the tech toys to play with. Activity is sooo important, I can't stress that enough.

    I will add, when it comes to the weights, IMO you do NOT want to start out with any 5 x5 or strength training. Reason being is in your beginning stages you want to learn how to perform all lifts with proper form, and what create proper form? Practice. Practice = repetiton. You are going to find that "groove" much faster doing sets of 10-15 reps compared to 5 only.

    Lastly I will just add that losing weight is simple on paper, but hard on the willpower. It's all in how much you want it. Results take time, so stick with it. If you take only one thing from this post, it should be there is NO magic, and don't make it rocket science - you merely need to start taking in less cals and become more active - period. Do it gradually so you will stick with it. If you do indeed follow that advice and yet still see no results after a fair amount of time, then perhaps you have a thyroid or other hormonal imbalance and need to go see a specialist to check it out.

    p.s - Don't mean to offend anybody if I contradicted your advice, I'm just giving my input from having a long time in the game.

    Thanks. I don't see that I have a slow metabolism. it's just that eat a lot (fan of Mang Inasal) lol. Again thanks and everything is noted.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Thank you sir. Target ko nga 7days a week since mon-fri 1hr alloted kong time since may work pa ako. Wala din akong rason para magpaliban kasi sa umaga ginigising ako ng ermats ko para pumunta sa gym.

    Bro, IMHO, masyadong OVERKILL, Pero siguro depende kung anung training gagawin mo,( kung simpleng cardio lang naman diba why not?)wala ka bang social life?hehe!
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