Sleep Problems Q&A thread

I believe everyone who's into weightlifting or in any other sport knows the importance of sleep

No diet and no training can compensate for lack of sleep. If you lack sleep, it will manifest not only in the gym but also in your life outside the gym. You will feel sluggish and weak. If it continues, you'll lose muscle. Muscle loss means strength loss. Another bad thing about it is you will feel and look like $hit if it continues uncorrected. And for guys, testosterone will drop. Testosterone is needed for muscle building and for sex :)

I am no sleep problem expert here and, as of now, I still have sleep problems.

I am putting up this thread so we can share our experiences and what we did to correct our sleep problems

I know there will be days where you don't sleep well but if it goes on for days or even weeks or months, I think it's a sleep problem

Here are the articles I found related to sleep problems and stress

http://anthonymychal.com/2012/12/7-sleep-tactics-that-dont-suck/

http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/blog/stress-the-real-epidemic/

For more than a month, I have been searching the internet for tips on how to fix your sleep

Here are the common ones

1. Lights out an hour before bed time

2. No stressful activities before bed time

3. Get as much sun light during day time

4. Read books before bed time

5. Write down your thoughts on a piece of paper

6. Deep breathing


I have tried some of it but it does not always work well for me

For number 6, I tried it but I discovered just now I'm doing it wrong. I breath thru my chest instead thru my diaphragm

I'll try parasympathetic breathing later this night when I get home and see how it works
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  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    Hirap kase pag nag iisip ka pa ng mga technique para makatulog lalo kang na strestress at lalong di nakakatulog, ako basta nililinaw ko isip ko at tatapatan ng electric fan mukha ko para makahinga ng maayos makakatulog na ko non.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Nice. Thanks bro.

    Actually i just did most of the items posted on the first article.

    Tried sleepless nights before ubos ang gains LOL@yatez

    di naman strictly dapat sundin haha mai stress ka talaga. Do it unconciously siguro.

    Pag nagtapat ako sa mukha ko ng electric fan sipon ako kinabukasan.
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    Di naman kase naka todo yung fan yung basta may dumaloy na hangin lang, i read something about that kase na mas stable at diretso tulog mo di ka magigising pag may air na nakatapat sa mukha mo so far its good nga di ako nagigising unless ihing ihi na talaga.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Ayus. Ako di naman makatulog ng walang nakatutok na electric fan sa paa ko hahah
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    ^ganyan den ako paa mukha combo, wala kaming aircon dito sa bundok eh hahaha
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    ako, ewan talent ko siguro ngayon yun.. naningil katawan ko nung adik days ko sa RF online hehe.. it's 5 years of 1 hour sleep everyday just to be the legend dun sa MMORPG na yun amps! Dextrose ang labanan!

    Anyways, the days na hirap ako makatulog ang nakatulong sakin sa pagtulog eh.. .

    Off the phones, ( alarm clock for the alarm ), nature music or ultra boring nature sounds, dim light, aroma scent ( kape will do ) o prutas sa room, at ang unan na tandayan !

    Deds ako for sure! pero ngayon marelax ulo ko tulog ako agad amp!
  • Accretia lvl 47 gunner! Haha!
    Malapit nako mag repeat ng high school dahil sa RF.

    I've never had much problems with sleep even though i abuse coffee
    Magical kasi post wo supp ko. If you guys have it really bad and want a quick fix
    Find a friend who has a bit of weed it straightened me out.
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    Accretia lvl 47 gunner! Haha!
    Malapit nako mag repeat ng high school dahil sa RF.

    I've never had much problems with sleep even though i abuse coffee
    Magical kasi post wo supp ko. If you guys have it really bad and want a quick fix
    Find a friend who has a bit of weed it straightened me out.

    Yeah same here, coffee won't make me awake kahit marami.. Pinapatulog pa ko lalo tho. Hehe..

    Nice, Ako my IGN is Symour , Bellato, nexus server level 56 lang ata nung last na level hehe..

    Was an archon for 5 straight years, ayun payat ang kinalabasan ko at tulog ko , payat din! hehe
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Gone those MMORPG days.
    Madaling akong makatulog kapag:
    1. May maayos na ventilation sa room. Make sure naka-open yung bintana at fan or...
    2. Drink milk.

    Q: Meron ba sa inyo dito yung bigla-bigla nalang kayong magigising with a jerking movement. Am having those problems, still no clue what causes it?
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    2. Di pwede saken lactose intolerant lol

    Q. Bihira mangyari saken yan pero i experience it pag nananaginip.
  • YatezYatez Posts: 2,745
    ^ako meron yung parang nahuhulog sa building? hahahah, na gaganyan ako randomly lang eh,taena ang masma dyan pag na gaganyan ako sa classroom eh nakakahiya hahaha
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    same here.. yung tipong kala mo nahulog ka sa mga high cliff plus the fact that I happen to have acrophobia hehe.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
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  • bomsbonbomsbon Posts: 194
    @ core naexperience ko yan kapag nanaginip ako na parang mahuhulog tapos nagjejerk na lang ako bigla, pero di naman madalas, or minsan may mga tao kasi nagugulat kapag nahawakan mo siya like my father biglang nagjejerk nagugulat hehe
  • RayKriegRayKrieg Posts: 577
    Mahirap matulog pag kalaban ang internet :( Ilang buwan na ako nakakatulog palagi ng 11:30-12am na. Tapos gigising ako ng 7 :/ Ampangit sa pakiramdam kaso inuulit ulit ko pa rin :( hayyy
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    mukhang ok yung deep breathing thru diaphragm... nakatulog ako agad

    panira lang kaninang 5am, ang ingay ng daddy ko


    try ko uli mamayang gabi
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    RayKrieg wrote:
    Mahirap matulog pag kalaban ang internet :( Ilang buwan na ako nakakatulog palagi ng 11:30-12am na. Tapos gigising ako ng 7 :/ Ampangit sa pakiramdam kaso inuulit ulit ko pa rin :( hayyy

    THIS

    though alam na naten matigas pa din ulo hahahah
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    kaya nga pag 10pm na sakin, nakapatay na phone ko hehehe.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    nrg500 wrote:
    nrg500 wrote:
    "...For more than a month, I have been searching the internet for tips on how to fix your sleep

    Here are the common ones

    1. Lights out an hour before bed time

    2. No stressful activities before bed time

    3. Get as much sun light during day time

    4. Read books before bed time

    5. Write down your thoughts on a piece of paper

    6. Deep breathing..." < (Knowing the difference between shallow and deep breathing(diaphragmatic breathing))
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    what's the issue here? "I cant sleep" OR "what keeps me awake"

    if you want to sleep, madali lang. pero kung andami mo gusto mangayari in a day at last priority mo ay matulog. wag ka na magtaka. karamihan ginagawang basis ang 12am, as long as wala pa 12:00 may time pa matulog tapos magseset na lang ng alarm para magising. Use the alarm not to wake you up but instead to avoid oversleeping.

    share ko lang, kagabi natulog ako around 11:30pm tapos gumising ako ng 4:30am to do cardio. 5 hours of sleep (not bad, although may DOMS pa). bihis, inom ng cobra smart tapos larga na 5am. After cardio, bihis tapos kain tapos back to bed ng 7am. Hirap makatulog ulit dahil sumisipa pa yung cobra pero around 7:40am nakatulog din ako (malalim na tulog). gising ulit 10:15am.

    total sleeping hours: 7+ hours (nakapag-cardio pa at nagcobra pa)

    Madali lang matulog, pero kung maghahanap ka muna ng articles kung pano makatulog bago ka humiga sa kama...goodluck :)
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    For me it's "what keeps me awake"

    Sa article na pinost ni nrg,because of the urgency and stress in my field of work i think the best advice is writing down all i would do for tomorrow.

    Pag i cant sleep kasi it more of my fault doing shit and stuff lol.
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    I agree with boss vinch regarding this issue. Usually, it's a choice, a choice we unconsciously make because it already became part of our day to day lives, in short, it became a HABIT. Make SLEEP as a PRIORITY instead of pushing it back as the least important part of your day.

    Solution? Unlearn those bad habits that keep you awake at night and develop new good ones to help you out get to bed early.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    ^but how to address those issues by getting to the root cause? Easier said than done esp if we are just talking about general issues or solutions.

    articles with regards to helping you sleep better sometimes PINPOINT the causes which makes you go A-ha. Now the problem is how you apply the solution to your problem

    my 2 cents
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    ^ It's as simple as it says. Check whatever activity delays your sleeping pattern. Usually, this activities happens 2-3 hours before bedtime. Iba iba naman kasi ang tao eh. They do different activities. Some people enjoys browsing the internet for hours, some enjoys watching movies before bedtime, some play computer games, read books etc. Ikaw lang makakasagot niyan. There is no one rule to apply to everybody. And because we enjoy to do such things, we push back our SLEEPING TIME. Ulitin ko ulit, it is usually a CHOICE we usually make. We DE-PRIORITIZE sleeping over these other activities/habits. Hard pill to swallow eh?

    What I'm trying to say is evaluate yourself. Check your HABITS before bedtime. Do they support your goal of sleeping longer or early? This is usually a case of SELF-REALIZATION. Unless of course may sakit ka talaga which keeps you awake at night which I don't think the majority of us have.
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    ako isa lang talaga problema ko during my sleep.. yung gigising para jumingle.. good thing I can sleep back.

    ewan ko kung nagmamatter sa iba yung "undisturbed sleep" vs ganun sakin.. pero as long as nakatulog ako. okay na ko hehe
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Anyway, this topic coincides with our new S2B habit which is introduced today. I will be posting a lot of things related to sleep for the next two weeks on my journal. I'll keep you guys posted.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    riddler wrote:
    ^ It's as simple as it says. Check whatever activity delays your sleeping pattern. Usually, this activities happens 2-3 hours before bedtime. Iba iba naman kasi ang tao eh. They do different activities. Some people enjoys browsing the internet for hours, some enjoys watching movies before bedtime, some play computer games, read books etc. Ikaw lang makakasagot niyan. There is no one rule to apply to everybody. And because we enjoy to do such things, we push back our SLEEPING TIME. Ulitin ko ulit, it is usually a CHOICE we usually make. We DE-PRIORITIZE sleeping over these other activities/habits. Hard pill to swallow eh?

    What I'm trying to say is evaluate yourself. Check your HABITS before bedtime. Do they support your goal of sleeping longer or early? This is usually a case of SELF-REALIZATION. Unless of course may sakit ka talaga which keeps you awake at night which I don't think the majority of us have.

    No it is not as simple as you say. If it were that simple a lot of people would have figured it out but sleeping pills continue to sell eh?

    As you say there is no one rule to apply for everybody, a lot of people have different jobs and priorities some have different urgency than the others and stress related activities as well.

    Regarding self realization, reading articles can help you, if not pinpoint the cause of why you're having a hard time to sleep. No one got genius overnight and figured the theory of relativity.

    That's all what I'm trying to say. People are different and you can find them in all shapes and sizes, in this case if you need to directly feed them the info just to learn then so be it.
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    I used to read articles and studies about sleep, sleeping techniques, problems etc. what i found out is that, they apply commonly to sedentary people with lifestyle issues. So, for an individual who is involved in a sport like bodybuilding (regardless if newbie or hardcore lifter) sleep shouldn't be a problem because it's in the top 3 of our "must do" list. Unless you want to live half bodybuilder half sedentary, then that's were sleeping problems come in. bodybuilding is a demanding lifestyle, results will vary as to how far you're willing to sacrifice and give things up. We give up, parties, delicious food, money, time and whatever to get results. for me it's about priorities and time management, same concept as macro management:

    Training: 1-2hours
    Sleep: 7-8 hours
    *Fill the rest with what you want to do (include office work ofcourse hehehe)

    :)
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Sleeping pills are akin to supplements. They sell because people thinks that it's the easy way out to their sleep problems, wherein in fact, it's not.

    Reading articles are fine, in fact, there are already tons of articles on the internet discussing about how to fix your sleep problems. The biggest problem I see is people usually shrug off these suggestions or maybe fail to implement it on their daily lives. Why? People are naturally HARD-HEADED. That's where self-realization comes in. Think hard, what's keeping you awake at night? Every persons answers may vary, that's why you need to take action and do it yourself. You can read hundreds, thousands, million of articles about sleep but if you fail to take action, it's pretty much another USELESS article.

    And for the record, I don't consider reading articles as part of the solution. It's the first step towards the solution but you still need to take ACTION (implement, execute etc) to get to the SOLUTION.
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    wish ko lang ganun sana kadali lahat

    di naman ako nagpupuyat sa PC games or TV. pag 7am to 4pm ang work ko, 7:30pm or 8pm ay humihiga na ako at di ko na hinahawakan ang cellphone ko. di ko na hinihintay yung 11pm or 12mn

    there are really just times that I find it hard to calm my mind. yung bigla na lang may mga dumarating na isipin

    tapos pag may naalala ako, chain reaction na, remembering one thing leads to another...
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