mas magnda ba effective ng Mutant Whey sa On Gold Whey Protein? hehe
confused din aku d2 eh kng anu dapat ko bilihn balak ko ksi bmli din sa CnC ng On Gold WHey or Mutant Whey + Dymatize Creatine..anu mas effetctive na Mutant Whey or On GOld Whey ?
salamat sa answers and suggestions newbie pa eh haha
Kung may pera ka, ON Gold Standard bilhin mo. 2600 yun. 73 to 77 ang servings. Yung cookies and cream, 68 lng servings nun. Depende sa flavor. Tapos 24 grams ang protein nya. Yung Mutant whey 2100 price nya. Tapos 22 grams protein and 63 servings nya. May free t-shirt at shaker din. Pero mataas sa cholesterol kaya pinagiisipan ko kung yun din bibilhn ko hehehe. Pero Bumili n ako ng Gold Standard Double Rich Chocolate. Ayus naman recovery ko. Basta daanin mo din sa pagkain at maayos na buhat.
both brands are good. dymatize creatine mono is also good and cheap. you may also want to try dymatize elite for a good cheap iso(cafe mocha is best imo).
Oxyelite PRO New formula is now at 1650-1.7k per bottle at shopper's variety
Try nyo rin minsan sa bescost bumili,nakabili ako dun ng hydroxycut elite for 1.5k. Yung O.N products naman nila galing FSPI. So yung mga maseselan dyan at kelangan talaga meron holographic stickers, sa BESCOST and Shopper's Variety nyo try pumunta.
lagi bang available yung mutant mass na 17lbs sa CnC ?
Yes Sir. Kagagaling ko lng kanina sa CnC. Presyo ng 17 lbs ay 2700 or 2800 ata sir. Yung Serious Mass ng ON ay 2400 sa Tia Lolengs. Mutant whey kasi binili ako for 3600. Ala promo sa mga muant whey at mass gainer pero yung Mutant Creapure nila meron free t-shirt at shaker. 5LBS ata yun eh. 5lbs na creatine Creapure.Yung ON creatine na micronized na creapure eh sa Shoppers variety lng meron. Ang price eh 650 ata or 750 pesos. 300 grams yun. Sensya na at di ko maalala saktong price kasi lumampas yung jeep na sinakyan ko. 20 mins ako naglakad pabalik CnC tapos ganun yung price na maaabutan ko hndi 550 pesos. PVL creatine nabili ko kay Tia Lolengs for 550 pesos. 590 pesos original price nya. Tinawaran ko lng. Yung Dyma na creatine micronized is 300 grams for 550 pesos.
pa advise naman po good creatine,first time mag crea hehe
Yung mga suggested creatine na naka post dto, yun ang bilhin mo. Dymatize at Optimum Nutrition Micronized bilhin mo. Ang price ng 300 grams eh 500-550 pesos. Pero yung Optimum Nutrition crea 300 grams sa Shoppers variety or Tyggy's ata eh 650 o 750 pesos ata. (Shoppers Var ata talaga yun eh) Dko sure kung yun talaga price ng ON crea or baka k c sila lng merong stock nun kaya tinaasan nila ng price.
pa advise naman po good creatine,first time mag crea hehe
ON creatine is good, but it requires loading phase. try to find creatine without loading phase.
MP creatine, Kre-Alkalyn EFX, Con-Cret, MuscleTech CellTech, etc.
Loading phase???
yes loading phase. certain brands of creatine require you to saturate your body with a lot of creatine in the first few days of use.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/crea.html "SUGGESTED USE:
Creatine Loading: Take 1 rounded teaspoon of Micronized Creatine Powder with morning, afternoon, and evening meals and 1 additional rounded teaspoon before going to bed for 4-5 days to help saturate your muscles with creatine. "
Directions For MM1000 Creatine: For adults only. Take one heaping teaspoon of MM1000 Creatine in 8 - 12 ounces of cold water or juice four times daily as a loading phase for one week. After the loading phase, take one to three times daily or as directed by your health care professional. On weight training days, take a dose immediately before your training session and a dose immediately afterward.
don't want to saturate ON's profits, then don't buy ON. simple as that.
^Mind you I'm one of the distributors of FSPI here in Manila but I don't tell my clients to do or follow something if it's not needed just so they would buy from me again. Doing business has its ethical side as well. It's not always about the money.
Creatine is already present in lean red meat that we eat.
Try reading and gather info from reliable sources and not what is "suggested" by these supp companies.
you're only getting about 1g of creatine a day from red meat. most creatine supps have 5g per serving.
i'll take the supp companies "suggestions" on their own products over your opinions anyday, and twice on sundays.
Yeah and rob your clients of their hard earned cash.
Oh and take the supp companies suggestions over this scientific research conducted on creatine loading as published in the website of National Center for Biotechnology Information.
^Mind you I'm one of the distributors of FSPI here in Manila but I don't tell my clients to do or follow something if it's not needed just so they would buy from me again. Doing business has its ethical side as well. It's not always about the money.
i just told the guy NOT to get ON creatine, a product which i sell. so how is it about the money?
Which also proves my point
once again, you're confused. i will elaborate to help you understand. if you were comparing creatine monohydrate to creatine monohydrate, and one brand recommends loading and one doesn't, then by all means, it's not necessary. unfortunately for you, not all creatines are made the same. there's creatine ethyl ester, monohydrate, creapure, kre-alkalyn, creatine hcl, creatine malate, etc. monohydrate is not going to be absorbed by your body at the same rate and potency as kre-alkalyn, which is why kre-alkalyn dosage is set to 1.5-3g only. different brands use different types of creatine.
Syang lng pera sa loading phase. Pwede namang 5 grams or less a day eh. Tapos yung saturation ng muscles will happen in 3 weeks. Malas. May creapure pala PVL pero d ko nakita sa Tia LOlengs or baka ala pa sila nun.
^Mind you I'm one of the distributors of FSPI here in Manila but I don't tell my clients to do or follow something if it's not needed just so they would buy from me again. Doing business has its ethical side as well. It's not always about the money.
i just told the guy NOT to get ON creatine, a product which i sell. so how is it about the money?
Which also proves my point
once again, you're confused. i will elaborate to help you understand. if you were comparing creatine monohydrate to creatine monohydrate, and one brand recommends loading and one doesn't, then by all means, it's not necessary. unfortunately for you, not all creatines are made the same. there's creatine ethyl ester, monohydrate, creapure, kre-alkalyn, creatine hcl, creatine malate, etc. monohydrate is not going to be absorbed by your body at the same rate and potency as kre-alkalyn, which is why kre-alkalyn dosage is set to 1.5-3g only. different brands use different types of creatine.
Much better if you explain this to me in person since you're oozing with knowledge. OT na masyado tayo dito, we can discuss this further in my journal if you want but again I prefer in person.
Oh and take the supp companies suggestions over this scientific research conducted on creatine loading as published in the website of National Center for Biotechnology Information.
2 days of supplementation was not sufficient to produce similar performance gains as that observed at the end of 5 days of loading in trained men, despite increases in creatine uptake in the body. The standard 5-day loading regime should hence be prescribed to individuals supplementing with creatine for enhanced strength and power.
so i guess the source you linked wants to rob people of their hard earned cash?
Oh and take the supp companies suggestions over this scientific research conducted on creatine loading as published in the website of National Center for Biotechnology Information.
2 days of supplementation was not sufficient to produce similar performance gains as that observed at the end of 5 days of loading in trained men, despite increases in creatine uptake in the body. The standard 5-day loading regime should hence be prescribed to individuals supplementing with creatine for enhanced strength and power.
so i guess the source you linked wants to rob people of their hard earned cash?
Uhmm did you read what happens to excess creatine not utilized by the body because of the loading phase? Again go to my journal if you want to continue this discussion.
Much better if you explain this to me in person since you're oozing with knowledge. OT na masyado tayo dito, we can discuss this further in my journal if you want but again I prefer in person.
it wasn't my intention to derail this thread and i apologize to the other readers. if you have issues with my opinions or with me personally, you could have just PMed me instead of sh_tting on the thread.
Uhmm did you read what happens to excess creatine not utilized by the body because of the loading phase? Again go to my journal if you want to continue this discussion.
bro, i don't know where your journal is. i don't follow you around here like you've been following me around.
Yes, I do have issues with your posts and other valuable "information" that you share here and mind you it's not just me but a whole lot of other members here.
Yes, I do have issues with your posts and other valuable "information" that you share here and mind you it's not just me but a whole lot of other members here.
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Kung may pera ka, ON Gold Standard bilhin mo. 2600 yun. 73 to 77 ang servings. Yung cookies and cream, 68 lng servings nun. Depende sa flavor. Tapos 24 grams ang protein nya. Yung Mutant whey 2100 price nya. Tapos 22 grams protein and 63 servings nya. May free t-shirt at shaker din. Pero mataas sa cholesterol kaya pinagiisipan ko kung yun din bibilhn ko hehehe. Pero Bumili n ako ng Gold Standard Double Rich Chocolate. Ayus naman recovery ko. Basta daanin mo din sa pagkain at maayos na buhat.
ON's creapure
Oxyelite PRO New formula is now at 1650-1.7k per bottle at shopper's variety
Try nyo rin minsan sa bescost bumili,nakabili ako dun ng hydroxycut elite for 1.5k. Yung O.N products naman nila galing FSPI. So yung mga maseselan dyan at kelangan talaga meron holographic stickers, sa BESCOST and Shopper's Variety nyo try pumunta.
ON creatine is good, but it requires loading phase. try to find creatine without loading phase.
MP creatine, Kre-Alkalyn EFX, Con-Cret, MuscleTech CellTech, etc.
Loading phase???
yes loading phase. certain brands of creatine require you to saturate your body with a lot of creatine in the first few days of use.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/crea.html
"SUGGESTED USE:
Creatine Loading: Take 1 rounded teaspoon of Micronized Creatine Powder with morning, afternoon, and evening meals and 1 additional rounded teaspoon before going to bed for 4-5 days to help saturate your muscles with creatine. "
Creatine is already present in lean red meat that we eat.
Try reading and gather info from reliable sources and not what is "suggested" by these supp companies.
ON is not the only one. Mass Machine Nutrition also requires loading phase.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mass-machine-nutrition/mm1000-creatine.html
Directions For MM1000 Creatine: For adults only. Take one heaping teaspoon of MM1000 Creatine in 8 - 12 ounces of cold water or juice four times daily as a loading phase for one week. After the loading phase, take one to three times daily or as directed by your health care professional. On weight training days, take a dose immediately before your training session and a dose immediately afterward.
don't want to saturate ON's profits, then don't buy ON. simple as that.
Which also proves my point
you're only getting about 1g of creatine a day from red meat. most creatine supps have 5g per serving.
i'll take the supp companies "suggestions" on their own products over your opinions anyday, and twice on sundays.
Yeah and rob your clients of their hard earned cash.
Oh and take the supp companies suggestions over this scientific research conducted on creatine loading as published in the website of National Center for Biotechnology Information.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC155521/
i just told the guy NOT to get ON creatine, a product which i sell. so how is it about the money?
once again, you're confused. i will elaborate to help you understand. if you were comparing creatine monohydrate to creatine monohydrate, and one brand recommends loading and one doesn't, then by all means, it's not necessary. unfortunately for you, not all creatines are made the same. there's creatine ethyl ester, monohydrate, creapure, kre-alkalyn, creatine hcl, creatine malate, etc. monohydrate is not going to be absorbed by your body at the same rate and potency as kre-alkalyn, which is why kre-alkalyn dosage is set to 1.5-3g only. different brands use different types of creatine.
Much better if you explain this to me in person since you're oozing with knowledge. OT na masyado tayo dito, we can discuss this further in my journal if you want but again I prefer in person.
UU. Meron sa CnC nun. Yun ata yung product na d sila mawawalan ng stock eh. Mura k c
that's a study on creatine monohydrate. its not a study comparing different types of creatine.
but the same source also recommends creatine loading:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19387386
2 days of supplementation was not sufficient to produce similar performance gains as that observed at the end of 5 days of loading in trained men, despite increases in creatine uptake in the body. The standard 5-day loading regime should hence be prescribed to individuals supplementing with creatine for enhanced strength and power.
so i guess the source you linked wants to rob people of their hard earned cash?
Uhmm did you read what happens to excess creatine not utilized by the body because of the loading phase? Again go to my journal if you want to continue this discussion.
it wasn't my intention to derail this thread and i apologize to the other readers. if you have issues with my opinions or with me personally, you could have just PMed me instead of sh_tting on the thread.
bro, i don't know where your journal is. i don't follow you around here like you've been following me around.
Yes, I do have issues with your posts and other valuable "information" that you share here and mind you it's not just me but a whole lot of other members here.
Last post. My apologies fellow Mods and members.
di msarap whey pag sa pop corn... sa beer pa ok! basta manila beer ha! :lol
pls check your PM.