lol,
eto sir mejo napagaralan ko lang sa biochemistry, anatomy and physiology at organic chemistry sir
ang Fats sir ay hindi ketones, ang Ketones sir ay produkto ng metabolismo ng Fat
at lahat ng activity sir gumagamit ng glycogen kahit na intense or hindi intense
at kung di mo alam ang ibig sabihin ng HIIT High INTENSITY interval training
Ang Glucose ang main fuel secondary ang Fats (Ngayon ang Glycogen eh Stored Glucose)
Ang glycogen ay naiistore sa muscle, (actually ang glycogen ai madalas nakukuha sa CARBS)
ngayon kung nasa Keto Diet ka ang keto diet sir gumagamit pa din ng glycogen sa pag woworkout, PERO PERO
dahil nasanay ang katawan mo sa FAT FAT FAT dahil ang diet mo ai high in fat, bumababa ang insulin production mo. which means ang nagiging Primary Energy mo eh Fat at secondary ang Glucose, which is still a theory.
ngayon naman kung cutting ka sir ang target mo fat loss, kung fat loss ang usapan di ba gusto natin mabilis na fatloss at konting muscle wasting, at dun pumapasok ang HIIT, ang hiit ay saglit lang ginagawa sir, ibig sabihin mababa lang ang chance na magproduce ka ng CORTISOL which is a hormone of catabolism, ngayon pumapasok si FAT pano nacacatabolize si fat? kasi HIIT is an Aerobic exercise and fat is oxidize.
if you have still any questions regarding sa gagawin mong regimen ng pagpapapayat mo eh ang masasabi ko lang
all you can achieve hanggang summer is ung payat talaga na possibleng maging ripped, unless youll use steroids.
Nawala yung post ko. Ano ngyripati unang post mo nwla pla. anu ngyyri. bug b to? dinelete b?ok anyway i2.
alam ko po yung difference ng fats and ketones. tntry ko lng isimplify kaso ang dating ata sainyu ay parehas cla. alam ko rn po ung meaning ng hiit. d q lam bkt nsbi nyu d q lam un.
ang ketones po ay hindi pwede gamitin sa high intensity exercises. pwede lang ang glycogen. hindi gaganda ang performance sa mga high intensity exercises like weight lifting and HIGH INTENSITY interval training cardio.(seperate po yan. baka sabihin nyu nirephrase ko lng un hiit at weightlifting)
yung tungkul nmn po sa hiit. mgnda n yung hiit sa fat loss kung mgnda. pero ang point ko lang ay cutting does not require cardio. cutting is having a calorie deficit.(sabi nyo po kc sa isang post nyo n nwala ay hindi pwede mag cutting pag hindi nag cacardio)
Ang Ketones at glycogen po ai parehong source of energy at kahit High Or Low intensity pa yan nauuna ang Glycogen kesa sa Ketones. Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na ang PWEDE LANG EH GLYCOGEN sir.
Unang una alam mo ba ang product ng dalawang yan?
Ketone man o Glycogen both produces ATP (Adenosine 5 Tri Phosphate) Yan ang TUNAY na ENERGY.
ANG MAIN FUEL po natin ay Carbs sir. Pag main ibig sabihin po sa tagalog eh PANGUNAHIN.
at ang Ketones po ay pang RESERVE lamang.
Ngayon po dahil nasa Keto Diet ka nasasanay ang katawan mo na mababa ang CARBS mo (mababa din ang GLYCOGEN)
eto diagram sir
Mababang Carbs = Mababang Glycogen = Mababang Insulin = ReProgram ang Utak = Ginawang Ketone ang Main Energy
ngayon sir sana gets mo na. na dahil nasa keto diet ka walang kinalaman ang kahit anong exercise o kahit anong ginagawa mo sa pag gamit ng katawan mo sa energy. Dahil Ketone Bodies na ang ginagamit mo as main fuel kahit na nanonood ka lang ng Porn or Nag bubuhat ka ng 10000lbs na barbel eh Ketone at Ketone lang ang gagamitin mo dahil Deprived ka sa Glycogen.
Ngayon sir kung ayaw mong maniwala sa Scientific Explanation
ang isasagot ko lang sayo Itanong mo kay Sir Broscience (kilala nyo to) :P
Peace!
I really really really hope that this doesn't offend you. I believe you are smart and you know a lot about a lot of things but I think you lack knowledge on ketosis to be giving advice. I really really hope that you don't take this the wrong way.
Thank you for the debate, I learned a lot about cardios and ATP(even if it went off topic)
I hope you will still visit my journal and give comment and suggestions(just not on ketosis).
lol glycogen is stored glucose sir. ngayon kung ayaw mo po maniwala eh kaw po bahala.
sir ATP is energy and its the product of Ketones and Glycogen (or Stored Glucose)
im trying to save you sa sarcasm ni sir MeAlready yet you dont understand it. (cause me already is a Keto dieter too)
sabi nya sayo Mag Crash Diet ka na lang kung gusto mo pumayat.
oo magkaiba ang Glucose sa Glycogen pero sa tingin mo para san ang Glycogen sir? it is a STORED GLUCOSE.
ngayon sir kung sa tingin mo kulang ang knowledge ko sa ketosis eh wala na kong magagawa dun. kasi im taking medicine now and sa tingin ko pag nainjure ka or anything sa mga doctor ka din tatakbo.
i think you should read more Science Related Books than just depending on Broscience.
Remember even Keto Diet is a THEORY, You can google what theory means.
how would wo + cardio = short term? just curious how you got that.
your goal in combining your cardio with your wo just for summer..
db yan ang reason mo kung bakit mo sya pinagsasabay??para sa summer??
how do you classify that goal??nabasa ko na yung post ng ibang members..no need to answer my questions..na-explain na nila lahat...
shet medical jargon lol. 2x ko binasa before ko ma gets taena hahaha. well nakuha ko ung point ni aloy about glycogen/ketones both will still be used under whatever reason di ba? kaso sa keto diet imbis m si glyco si keto ang bida at supporting actor lang si glycogen.
how would wo + cardio = short term? just curious how you got that.
your goal in combining your cardio with your wo just for summer..
db yan ang reason mo kung bakit mo sya pinagsasabay??para sa summer??
how do you classify that goal??nabasa ko na yung post ng ibang members..no need to answer my questions..na-explain na nila lahat...
d po. tinanong mo ko kung bkt ako nagmamadali tpos sinabi ko kc summer. i never said i would stop.
kakauwi ko lng sir aloy. meju tnatamad ako mag research ngyn e. bukas n po natin tuloy yung debate. tpos try po natin gawin as peaceful as possible. wag po hi blood :Duunga. as "matured" as possible po.
i2 nag research n ako. i2 yung sinasabi ko na pag low intensity=fats, high intensity=carbs ang nagagamit
"To better understand the effects of a CKD on exercise performance, we have to look briefly at how different forms of exercise affect fuel utilization in the body. There are four potential fuels which the body can use during exercise: glycogen, fat, protein and ketones. Except under certain conditions (which will be mentioned when necessary), protein and ketones do not provide a significant amount of energy during exercise. Therefore this discussion will focus primarily on glycogen and fat use during exercise. To simplify this article, exercise will be delineated as either aerobic or anaerobic (which will include interval training and weight training).
Aerobic Exercise
Aerobic exercise is generally defined as any activity which can be sustained continuously for periods of at least three minutes or longer. Examples would be walking, jogging, cycling, swimming, aerobics classes, etc.
The primary fuels during aerobic exercise are carbohydrate (muscle glycogen and blood glucose) and fat (from adipose tissue as well as intramuscular triglyceride) (1,2). At low intensities, fat is the primary fuel source during exercise.
As exercise intensity increases, less fat and more glycogen is used as fuel. At some intensity, sometimes called the “Crossover point”, glycogen becomes the primary fuel during exercise. (3) This point corresponds roughly with something called the lactate threshold. The increase in glycogen utilization at higher intensities is related to a number of factors including greater adrenaline release (3,4) decreased availability of free fatty acids (5), and greater recruitment of Type II muscle fibers (3,6,8). The ketogenic diet shifts the crossover (i.e. lactate threshold) point to higher training intensities (3) as does regular endurance training (4)."
Pwede mo ba isummarize yung topic tapos irelate mo sa ginagawa mo ngayon??
Magpsot ka na din ng progress pictures mo para reference at pwede ding maging motivation sa ibang members??
find time to post your progress pic..i think it is easier that to do research on your claims..
just 1 previous pic (time you started your stuff) and 1 current pic of body structure..
If your having a hard time on how to execute it just look at samples on this link http://pinoybodybuilding.com/forum/Thread-PBB-Progress-Photos..
Sabi ni boss donbuh dati in progress pa yung sa iba kasi busy ata sya lately..
(rephrase ko lang)ang dameng reps, ang dameng sets. imagine ko lang pano mag develop ang muscle sa ganyan? hindi sya pwede pumasok sa gvt hindi din pde pumasok sa strnght training.sir mealready
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parang yun kasi ang ibig sabihin eh
eto sir mejo napagaralan ko lang sa biochemistry, anatomy and physiology at organic chemistry sir
ang Fats sir ay hindi ketones, ang Ketones sir ay produkto ng metabolismo ng Fat
at lahat ng activity sir gumagamit ng glycogen kahit na intense or hindi intense
at kung di mo alam ang ibig sabihin ng HIIT High INTENSITY interval training
Ang Glucose ang main fuel secondary ang Fats (Ngayon ang Glycogen eh Stored Glucose)
Ang glycogen ay naiistore sa muscle, (actually ang glycogen ai madalas nakukuha sa CARBS)
ngayon kung nasa Keto Diet ka ang keto diet sir gumagamit pa din ng glycogen sa pag woworkout, PERO PERO
dahil nasanay ang katawan mo sa FAT FAT FAT dahil ang diet mo ai high in fat, bumababa ang insulin production mo. which means ang nagiging Primary Energy mo eh Fat at secondary ang Glucose, which is still a theory.
ngayon naman kung cutting ka sir ang target mo fat loss, kung fat loss ang usapan di ba gusto natin mabilis na fatloss at konting muscle wasting, at dun pumapasok ang HIIT, ang hiit ay saglit lang ginagawa sir, ibig sabihin mababa lang ang chance na magproduce ka ng CORTISOL which is a hormone of catabolism, ngayon pumapasok si FAT pano nacacatabolize si fat? kasi HIIT is an Aerobic exercise and fat is oxidize.
if you have still any questions regarding sa gagawin mong regimen ng pagpapapayat mo eh ang masasabi ko lang
all you can achieve hanggang summer is ung payat talaga na possibleng maging ripped, unless youll use steroids.
alam ko po yung difference ng fats and ketones. tntry ko lng isimplify kaso ang dating ata sainyu ay parehas cla. alam ko rn po ung meaning ng hiit. d q lam bkt nsbi nyu d q lam un.
ang ketones po ay hindi pwede gamitin sa high intensity exercises. pwede lang ang glycogen. hindi gaganda ang performance sa mga high intensity exercises like weight lifting and HIGH INTENSITY interval training cardio.(seperate po yan. baka sabihin nyu nirephrase ko lng un hiit at weightlifting)
yung tungkul nmn po sa hiit. mgnda n yung hiit sa fat loss kung mgnda. pero ang point ko lang ay cutting does not require cardio. cutting is having a calorie deficit.(sabi nyo po kc sa isang post nyo n nwala ay hindi pwede mag cutting pag hindi nag cacardio)
yko po mag steroid.
Ang Ketones at glycogen po ai parehong source of energy at kahit High Or Low intensity pa yan nauuna ang Glycogen kesa sa Ketones. Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na ang PWEDE LANG EH GLYCOGEN sir.
Unang una alam mo ba ang product ng dalawang yan?
Ketone man o Glycogen both produces ATP (Adenosine 5 Tri Phosphate) Yan ang TUNAY na ENERGY.
ANG MAIN FUEL po natin ay Carbs sir. Pag main ibig sabihin po sa tagalog eh PANGUNAHIN.
at ang Ketones po ay pang RESERVE lamang.
Ngayon po dahil nasa Keto Diet ka nasasanay ang katawan mo na mababa ang CARBS mo (mababa din ang GLYCOGEN)
eto diagram sir
Mababang Carbs = Mababang Glycogen = Mababang Insulin = ReProgram ang Utak = Ginawang Ketone ang Main Energy
ngayon sir sana gets mo na. na dahil nasa keto diet ka walang kinalaman ang kahit anong exercise o kahit anong ginagawa mo sa pag gamit ng katawan mo sa energy. Dahil Ketone Bodies na ang ginagamit mo as main fuel kahit na nanonood ka lang ng Porn or Nag bubuhat ka ng 10000lbs na barbel eh Ketone at Ketone lang ang gagamitin mo dahil Deprived ka sa Glycogen.
Ngayon sir kung ayaw mong maniwala sa Scientific Explanation
ang isasagot ko lang sayo Itanong mo kay Sir Broscience
Peace!
glycogen and glucose is different. glucose po ang snsbi nyo jan sa statement nyo. iba ang glycogen. glycogen yung na sstore sa muscle
@aloy0511
I really really really hope that this doesn't offend you. I believe you are smart and you know a lot about a lot of things but I think you lack knowledge on ketosis to be giving advice. I really really hope that you don't take this the wrong way.
Thank you for the debate, I learned a lot about cardios and ATP(even if it went off topic)
I hope you will still visit my journal and give comment and suggestions(just not on ketosis).
peace.
sir ATP is energy and its the product of Ketones and Glycogen (or Stored Glucose)
im trying to save you sa sarcasm ni sir MeAlready yet you dont understand it. (cause me already is a Keto dieter too)
sabi nya sayo Mag Crash Diet ka na lang kung gusto mo pumayat.
oo magkaiba ang Glucose sa Glycogen pero sa tingin mo para san ang Glycogen sir? it is a STORED GLUCOSE.
ngayon sir kung sa tingin mo kulang ang knowledge ko sa ketosis eh wala na kong magagawa dun. kasi im taking medicine now and sa tingin ko pag nainjure ka or anything sa mga doctor ka din tatakbo.
i think you should read more Science Related Books than just depending on Broscience.
Remember even Keto Diet is a THEORY, You can google what theory means.
I will look into that later. aalis muna ako
ill try to save you from your misconceptions
here is a link you can read
http://josepharcita.blogspot.com/2011/03/guide-to-ketosis.html#Cheeses00
pag nabasa mo yan sir saka mo sabihin na Off Topic ang ATP
at pag naintindihan mo yan sir sabihin mo din sa akin na wala akong alam sa ketogenic diet
your goal in combining your cardio with your wo just for summer..
db yan ang reason mo kung bakit mo sya pinagsasabay??para sa summer??
how do you classify that goal??nabasa ko na yung post ng ibang members..no need to answer my questions..na-explain na nila lahat...
yes sir Registered Nurse, and taking up Med
naalala ko tuloy sir ung Testosterone na prinoproduce ng Betlog
anyway sana matulungan natin sa goal si sir Sam, pero di namin mapropromise na magiging bulky ka at babalik ka sa 170lbs
d po. tinanong mo ko kung bkt ako nagmamadali tpos sinabi ko kc summer. i never said i would stop.
"To better understand the effects of a CKD on exercise performance, we have to look briefly at how different forms of exercise affect fuel utilization in the body. There are four potential fuels which the body can use during exercise: glycogen, fat, protein and ketones. Except under certain conditions (which will be mentioned when necessary), protein and ketones do not provide a significant amount of energy during exercise. Therefore this discussion will focus primarily on glycogen and fat use during exercise. To simplify this article, exercise will be delineated as either aerobic or anaerobic (which will include interval training and weight training).
Aerobic Exercise
Aerobic exercise is generally defined as any activity which can be sustained continuously for periods of at least three minutes or longer. Examples would be walking, jogging, cycling, swimming, aerobics classes, etc.
The primary fuels during aerobic exercise are carbohydrate (muscle glycogen and blood glucose) and fat (from adipose tissue as well as intramuscular triglyceride) (1,2). At low intensities, fat is the primary fuel source during exercise.
As exercise intensity increases, less fat and more glycogen is used as fuel. At some intensity, sometimes called the “Crossover point”, glycogen becomes the primary fuel during exercise. (3) This point corresponds roughly with something called the lactate threshold. The increase in glycogen utilization at higher intensities is related to a number of factors including greater adrenaline release (3,4) decreased availability of free fatty acids (5), and greater recruitment of Type II muscle fibers (3,6,8). The ketogenic diet shifts the crossover (i.e. lactate threshold) point to higher training intensities (3) as does regular endurance training (4)."
http://thinksteroids.com/articles/cyclical-ketogenic-diet-exercise-performance/#ixzz1nRbSWP6U
Pwede mo ba isummarize yung topic tapos irelate mo sa ginagawa mo ngayon??
Magpsot ka na din ng progress pictures mo para reference at pwede ding maging motivation sa ibang members??
Can you do that the soonest??
yko po mag post ng pix nahihiya ako
Btw, is there really a progress by following all that was stated in your first entry??
sched:
S full body
M
T chest bicep
W shoulder abs
T back tricep
F
S legs abs
chest:
flat benchpress:20/15/12/10/10/8 reps 20/60/90/100/100/130 lbs
decline dumbbell press: 12/10/10/8 reps 20/35/35/40 lbs each
incline dumbbell press: 12/10/10/8 reps 20/35/35/40 lbs each
superset
flat dumbell press: 12/10/10/8 reps 20/35/35/40 lbs each
pushup to failure(4-5pushups)
cable crossover: 4x8 15lbs each
nkakatamad pla ilagay lht:(... pero yan yung chest wo ko. prng gnyn rn ung sets at reps sa iba body part.
may manboobs aku e. nahihiya ako ipakita yun
progress ko is I lost 7-8kilos in 1month.(mostly water weight).
ngyn feel ko mahihirapan n ako gumalaw sa 71-72kilo.
just 1 previous pic (time you started your stuff) and 1 current pic of body structure..
If your having a hard time on how to execute it just look at samples on this link http://pinoybodybuilding.com/forum/Thread-PBB-Progress-Photos..
Sabi ni boss donbuh dati in progress pa yung sa iba kasi busy ata sya lately..
404 error ung link mo,